c99 and apollo 11
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L33t
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Hi there glitchin
I have grown c99 and A11 many times in pure form and in crosses but all were f2 , though I have smoked them both from f1 seeds as well.These two strains are quite similar as their genetics come from seeds mrSoul found in a single bud so are pretty close genetically but worked so there is a variation in high , smell and taste that you will experience when you smoke and grow em both .
A11 is faster and has a high with better qualities in my humble opinion compared to c99. It has an up clear high , very motivational , excellent daytime smoke with very little to no body stone at all. Also quite energetic and thought provoking high. Fast plant with a nice lemony smell. It makes music sound better and is great for composing and drawing too. Good artist weed. There is a great a11 pheno , the so called 'genius' pheno.It really is smart-weed and great for doing tasks..you ll find yourself getting your job done faster than you thought and noone will know you are high. But ..you will be
C99 is a bit stronger and more trippy than A11 with a racy edgy type of high , with some paranoia in the high too. It is better overall smoke if I had to choose only one to have in my jars between the two , I 'd go with c99 as it is more satisfying even when smoking it during nighttime. But I 'd love to have A11 if I could have another nice nighttime smoke as A11 has a better high at least for my taste. C99 has a more fruity smell and taste both quite unique. C99 is more of a party weed compared to A11 , to be honest both are great for what they offer and I wouldn't want to choose as I love em both equally.
So basically I 'd advise you to run both strains side by side if you can and smoke them before you decide on a keeper or two cause in the end, its down to personal preference and matter of taste like most things in life . One thing I sould mention is that I find myself to build tolerance easily to these two strains so I 'd recommend you grow something different in the garden along them, for having something else to smoke when you just want to relax and watch a movie , and for nighttime smoke generally. A11 and C99 are better enjoyed when doing activities and being energetic and outdoors . I 'd rate a11 and c99 as a solid 7 in terms of raw potency , which is good but not the strongest plants for sure. Not the holy grail or anything as far as I am concerned but lovely smokes for sure and good for indoors considering they are quick strains .
Here is some Apollo11 I grew few years back , very nice trichome production and lovely smell
I have grown c99 and A11 many times in pure form and in crosses but all were f2 , though I have smoked them both from f1 seeds as well.These two strains are quite similar as their genetics come from seeds mrSoul found in a single bud so are pretty close genetically but worked so there is a variation in high , smell and taste that you will experience when you smoke and grow em both .
A11 is faster and has a high with better qualities in my humble opinion compared to c99. It has an up clear high , very motivational , excellent daytime smoke with very little to no body stone at all. Also quite energetic and thought provoking high. Fast plant with a nice lemony smell. It makes music sound better and is great for composing and drawing too. Good artist weed. There is a great a11 pheno , the so called 'genius' pheno.It really is smart-weed and great for doing tasks..you ll find yourself getting your job done faster than you thought and noone will know you are high. But ..you will be
C99 is a bit stronger and more trippy than A11 with a racy edgy type of high , with some paranoia in the high too. It is better overall smoke if I had to choose only one to have in my jars between the two , I 'd go with c99 as it is more satisfying even when smoking it during nighttime. But I 'd love to have A11 if I could have another nice nighttime smoke as A11 has a better high at least for my taste. C99 has a more fruity smell and taste both quite unique. C99 is more of a party weed compared to A11 , to be honest both are great for what they offer and I wouldn't want to choose as I love em both equally.
So basically I 'd advise you to run both strains side by side if you can and smoke them before you decide on a keeper or two cause in the end, its down to personal preference and matter of taste like most things in life . One thing I sould mention is that I find myself to build tolerance easily to these two strains so I 'd recommend you grow something different in the garden along them, for having something else to smoke when you just want to relax and watch a movie , and for nighttime smoke generally. A11 and C99 are better enjoyed when doing activities and being energetic and outdoors . I 'd rate a11 and c99 as a solid 7 in terms of raw potency , which is good but not the strongest plants for sure. Not the holy grail or anything as far as I am concerned but lovely smokes for sure and good for indoors considering they are quick strains .
Here is some Apollo11 I grew few years back , very nice trichome production and lovely smell
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JessE
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C99 was found in a bud of Jack Herer supposidly which is a variety with NL, SK and Haze in its make up. L33t covered most of the rest fairly well. I believe C99 had some work done to it as well, it just wasnt simply pulled from a bud and used if memory serves me correctly.
L33t
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Hi Jesse
Hope you are doing well
Well the exact story goes like this according to mrSoul himself:
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The Cinderella99 story (Words from the creator of the strain)
I've been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the "Cinderella Story", so here it is: In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ "Sensi Smile" coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn't expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call "Princess". Therefore Princess' mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant. I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe'Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process. The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is "Cinderella 99", a cubed version of Princess. The name "Cinderella" was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. It's also VERY similar to the story of the "Morgan Horse"...go Figure
I ALWAYS see preflowers between the age of 4 and 6 weeks. Node 6 is commonly where they start, so I'd say you're probably seeing them. The plants that show first are usually males. Look over each plant carefully, using a loupe. If you see a preflower at such an early age, it'll most likely be male, but be SURE before culling it. If you can't find a preflower on a plant, while most of the others HAVE shown... it's most likely a female. Isn't that uniformity NICE? Cinderella 99 is a STABLE strain. Cinderella 88 was close, but this generation is there.
(Cinderella needs odor control?) I don't know if it helps you, but the scent is very sweet and fruity. It won't "fool" anyone who's familiar with MJ, but the average person might not recognize the scent as pot. They start to smell after 3 weeks of 12/12 and they're harvested 4 weeks later, so the SHORT flowering cycle helps a bit by lessening the amount of time your garden "stinks".
Yields are highly Dependant on the methods used. Pruning style and number of plants/area make a BIG difference. I get about 2 lbs every 50 days under 2kW. I grow a combination of bushes and single-cola clones (about 12-20 of 'em) in 2 gallon pots of organic soil, feeding them "teas" of dissolved worm castings, PSG, high phosphorus bat guano and kelp meal. My yields are average at best. Professional growers write me saying they get 2lbs/kW, which I'm sure is true.
The scent given off by Cinderella is NOT the typical "pot stench"...not at all skunky -she's sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. C-99 is more "psychedelic"... I think that's what you're looking for eh? Just be sure to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more...it's easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.
Haze is my favourite high. Very "trippy" C-99 is has more of the Haze type of high because the mother (Princess), has that kind of high and each time I back-cross to her the next generation gets a bit more of it. Smoking PURE Princess buds is a bit scary... it's too "speedy" and paranoia-inducing for most people. But she's so RESINOUS (see photo) and her flavour is just so delicious and fruity that I knew back-crossing her to her offspring over several generations would create a strain which is actually BETTER than the original mother in terms of a more PLEASING high. It was successful beyond my expectations.
The progression I went through was: P.50 = Princess/(ShivaSkunk/Princess'Brother) P.75 = Princess/P.50 Cinderella 88 = Princess/P.75 Cinderella 99 = Princess/Cinderella 88 Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is "TRIP WEED" with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess. C-99 will be a bigger yielder and faster finisher (than D/T) - which I personally think makes more sense to begin a grow with. If you're growing under 1000W lamps, you should easily get a pound of C-99 per lamp after a 7 week flowering period. When you have all the weed you need and can take your time waiting for a long-flowering Sativa, THEN start those "extra" beans (included in your order)... I don't know what the Bros Grimm sent you, but it's NOT Durban/Thai. I'm still developing it, so they won't see it for about 6 months.
Thanks for noticing her she IS beautiful! Cafe'Girl is a sister of "Princess" - Princess is the mother of the Cinderella series. Cafe'Girl smells like a combination of ginger, orange and cream... kinda smells like a "Creamsicle" -you know those ice cream bars? She has the highest YIELD of the 3 Sisters (Princess, Genius and Cafe'Girl). Cafe'Girl makes HUGE, DENSE, SPARKLING buds with a lovely high. A really sweet high, in that you never feel paranoid and it continues to "creep up" over the first 15 minutes after you smoke, leaving you feeling warm and at peace with life. Bros Grimm may offer an hybrid of Cafe'Girl when enough testing of her offspring has been completed.
Sure, I'd be glad to answer your q's: 1. I flower clones when they're about a foot tall and they double in height during flowering. 2. They clone SUPER EASY. 3. Crossing Cindy 88's will you a variety of phenotypes... they're not stable. Cindy 99 IS STABLE. 4. The seeds are small, tan in colour and "speckled" not striped. If you ordered from either Bros.Grimm or Heaven's Stairway you WON'T get ripped off...but I'll describe the plants: As seedlings they're fast-growing, Indica-dominant with fairly wide leaves. They show preflowers @ 5-6 weeks old WITHOUT FAIL. They NEVER herm, so if the pre-flowers have pistils, it's FEMALE forever. They flower RAPIDLY - you probably won't believe how fat and dense and frosty they'll be @ 4-5 weeks 12/12. The flower/leaf is EXTREMELY high; the tops of the colas go NUTS at about 5 weeks into flowering, sending braid-like floral cluster projections out in all directions without any leaves. Just before that happens, hundreds of SNOW WHITE pistils make the tip of the colas look like they're wearing fur caps! The resin production is HEAVY (again, you won't believe it), a HEAVENLY scent of tropical fruit and berries begins to fill the room @ 3 weeks of 12/12 and just keeps getting more overpowering 'til they're done. The finished smoke is the type of high that keeps you UP; it's very cerebral - the only body effect is the "jitters". I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone looking to "mellow out" on the sofa, BUT if you wanted to smoke before going running or cycling - PERFECT! I smoked C-88 one eve after trying Silver Haze and the C-88 buzz cut RIGHT THROUGH the high of the Haze so badly that my wife asked me, "what did you do?... smoke too much?" The flavour is just like the scent; fruity and sweet...not at all hashy (not that there's anything WRONG with that!...heehee. Outdoors, Apollo 13 and Cinderella 88 will finish before October 15th at 43 degrees north latitude.
text is from this link :http://www.wikistrains.com/Cinderella_99
Hope you are doing well
Well the exact story goes like this according to mrSoul himself:
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The Cinderella99 story (Words from the creator of the strain)
I've been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the "Cinderella Story", so here it is: In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ "Sensi Smile" coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn't expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call "Princess". Therefore Princess' mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant. I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe'Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process. The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is "Cinderella 99", a cubed version of Princess. The name "Cinderella" was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. It's also VERY similar to the story of the "Morgan Horse"...go Figure
I ALWAYS see preflowers between the age of 4 and 6 weeks. Node 6 is commonly where they start, so I'd say you're probably seeing them. The plants that show first are usually males. Look over each plant carefully, using a loupe. If you see a preflower at such an early age, it'll most likely be male, but be SURE before culling it. If you can't find a preflower on a plant, while most of the others HAVE shown... it's most likely a female. Isn't that uniformity NICE? Cinderella 99 is a STABLE strain. Cinderella 88 was close, but this generation is there.
(Cinderella needs odor control?) I don't know if it helps you, but the scent is very sweet and fruity. It won't "fool" anyone who's familiar with MJ, but the average person might not recognize the scent as pot. They start to smell after 3 weeks of 12/12 and they're harvested 4 weeks later, so the SHORT flowering cycle helps a bit by lessening the amount of time your garden "stinks".
Yields are highly Dependant on the methods used. Pruning style and number of plants/area make a BIG difference. I get about 2 lbs every 50 days under 2kW. I grow a combination of bushes and single-cola clones (about 12-20 of 'em) in 2 gallon pots of organic soil, feeding them "teas" of dissolved worm castings, PSG, high phosphorus bat guano and kelp meal. My yields are average at best. Professional growers write me saying they get 2lbs/kW, which I'm sure is true.
The scent given off by Cinderella is NOT the typical "pot stench"...not at all skunky -she's sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. C-99 is more "psychedelic"... I think that's what you're looking for eh? Just be sure to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more...it's easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.
Haze is my favourite high. Very "trippy" C-99 is has more of the Haze type of high because the mother (Princess), has that kind of high and each time I back-cross to her the next generation gets a bit more of it. Smoking PURE Princess buds is a bit scary... it's too "speedy" and paranoia-inducing for most people. But she's so RESINOUS (see photo) and her flavour is just so delicious and fruity that I knew back-crossing her to her offspring over several generations would create a strain which is actually BETTER than the original mother in terms of a more PLEASING high. It was successful beyond my expectations.
The progression I went through was: P.50 = Princess/(ShivaSkunk/Princess'Brother) P.75 = Princess/P.50 Cinderella 88 = Princess/P.75 Cinderella 99 = Princess/Cinderella 88 Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is "TRIP WEED" with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess. C-99 will be a bigger yielder and faster finisher (than D/T) - which I personally think makes more sense to begin a grow with. If you're growing under 1000W lamps, you should easily get a pound of C-99 per lamp after a 7 week flowering period. When you have all the weed you need and can take your time waiting for a long-flowering Sativa, THEN start those "extra" beans (included in your order)... I don't know what the Bros Grimm sent you, but it's NOT Durban/Thai. I'm still developing it, so they won't see it for about 6 months.
Thanks for noticing her she IS beautiful! Cafe'Girl is a sister of "Princess" - Princess is the mother of the Cinderella series. Cafe'Girl smells like a combination of ginger, orange and cream... kinda smells like a "Creamsicle" -you know those ice cream bars? She has the highest YIELD of the 3 Sisters (Princess, Genius and Cafe'Girl). Cafe'Girl makes HUGE, DENSE, SPARKLING buds with a lovely high. A really sweet high, in that you never feel paranoid and it continues to "creep up" over the first 15 minutes after you smoke, leaving you feeling warm and at peace with life. Bros Grimm may offer an hybrid of Cafe'Girl when enough testing of her offspring has been completed.
Sure, I'd be glad to answer your q's: 1. I flower clones when they're about a foot tall and they double in height during flowering. 2. They clone SUPER EASY. 3. Crossing Cindy 88's will you a variety of phenotypes... they're not stable. Cindy 99 IS STABLE. 4. The seeds are small, tan in colour and "speckled" not striped. If you ordered from either Bros.Grimm or Heaven's Stairway you WON'T get ripped off...but I'll describe the plants: As seedlings they're fast-growing, Indica-dominant with fairly wide leaves. They show preflowers @ 5-6 weeks old WITHOUT FAIL. They NEVER herm, so if the pre-flowers have pistils, it's FEMALE forever. They flower RAPIDLY - you probably won't believe how fat and dense and frosty they'll be @ 4-5 weeks 12/12. The flower/leaf is EXTREMELY high; the tops of the colas go NUTS at about 5 weeks into flowering, sending braid-like floral cluster projections out in all directions without any leaves. Just before that happens, hundreds of SNOW WHITE pistils make the tip of the colas look like they're wearing fur caps! The resin production is HEAVY (again, you won't believe it), a HEAVENLY scent of tropical fruit and berries begins to fill the room @ 3 weeks of 12/12 and just keeps getting more overpowering 'til they're done. The finished smoke is the type of high that keeps you UP; it's very cerebral - the only body effect is the "jitters". I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone looking to "mellow out" on the sofa, BUT if you wanted to smoke before going running or cycling - PERFECT! I smoked C-88 one eve after trying Silver Haze and the C-88 buzz cut RIGHT THROUGH the high of the Haze so badly that my wife asked me, "what did you do?... smoke too much?" The flavour is just like the scent; fruity and sweet...not at all hashy (not that there's anything WRONG with that!...heehee. Outdoors, Apollo 13 and Cinderella 88 will finish before October 15th at 43 degrees north latitude.
text is from this link :http://www.wikistrains.com/Cinderella_99
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Cindy99Lover
New member
Hi there glitchin
I have grown c99 and A11 many times in pure form and in crosses but all were f2 , though I have smoked them both from f1 seeds as well.These two strains are quite similar as their genetics come from seeds mrSoul found in a single bud so are pretty close genetically but worked so there is a variation in high , smell and taste that you will experience when you smoke and grow em both .
A11 is faster and has a high with better qualities in my humble opinion compared to c99. It has an up clear high , very motivational , excellent daytime smoke with very little to no body stone at all. Also quite energetic and thought provoking high. Fast plant with a nice lemony smell. It makes music sound better and is great for composing and drawing too. Good artist weed. There is a great a11 pheno , the so called 'genius' pheno.It really is smart-weed and great for doing tasks..you ll find yourself getting your job done faster than you thought and noone will know you are high. But ..you will be
C99 is a bit stronger and more trippy than A11 with a racy edgy type of high , with some paranoia in the high too. It is better overall smoke if I had to choose only one to have in my jars between the two , I 'd go with c99 as it is more satisfying even when smoking it during nighttime. But I 'd love to have A11 if I could have another nice nighttime smoke as A11 has a better high at least for my taste. C99 has a more fruity smell and taste both quite unique. C99 is more of a party weed compared to A11 , to be honest both are great for what they offer and I wouldn't want to choose as I love em both equally.
So basically I 'd advise you to run both strains side by side if you can and smoke them before you decide on a keeper or two cause in the end, its down to personal preference and matter of taste like most things in life . One thing I sould mention is that I find myself to build tolerance easily to these two strains so I 'd recommend you grow something different in the garden along them, for having something else to smoke when you just want to relax and watch a movie , and for nighttime smoke generally. A11 and C99 are better enjoyed when doing activities and being energetic and outdoors . I 'd rate a11 and c99 as a solid 7 in terms of raw potency , which is good but not the strongest plants for sure. Not the holy grail or anything as far as I am concerned but lovely smokes for sure and good for indoors considering they are quick strains .
Here is some Apollo11 I grew few years back , very nice trichome production and lovely smell
You sure you didn't get those strains mixed up? Apollo 11 is an indica, Cinderella 99 is the sativa-dominant.
Cindy99Lover
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Yeah, Joey Weed does.
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JessE
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Im not sure, but wasnt A11 Genius x C99?
L33t
Well-known member
Hi there Cindy99Lover
I am sure I didn't mix the 2 up
What you say is true...indeed the A11 is 'supposed to be' more indica dominant than c99..and yes A11 is a bit faster ..I never said the opposite. ..What I did say though is that Apollo11 is more of a daytime smoke and it definitelly has more clear high than c99. Cindy99 is more of a all-day smoke and will satisfy you more if you smoke it during nightime compared to A11 . C99 is more trippy , more of a party-'drug', racy and edgy in terms of high and has a bit of paranoia , has more raw potency. A11 may be more indica but the high is more clear focused/thought provoking compared to c99. dont forget there are indicas out there that have a clear energetic high and also there are sativas that have stony narcotic high. indica finishing times dont always reflect in the high.
Generally I d say the c99 is overall more potent but A11 is the way to go if one looks for a special up clear/ euphoric / motivational that allows you to complete job tasks . it also is really great for listening or playing music or for other artistic activities.
At least that is what I 've experienced myself and that is the opinion many friends that have grown both a11 & c99 have too. I personally like both strains and I d love to grow em again sometime.
jessE,
yes a11 = c99 x genius
I am sure I didn't mix the 2 up
What you say is true...indeed the A11 is 'supposed to be' more indica dominant than c99..and yes A11 is a bit faster ..I never said the opposite. ..What I did say though is that Apollo11 is more of a daytime smoke and it definitelly has more clear high than c99. Cindy99 is more of a all-day smoke and will satisfy you more if you smoke it during nightime compared to A11 . C99 is more trippy , more of a party-'drug', racy and edgy in terms of high and has a bit of paranoia , has more raw potency. A11 may be more indica but the high is more clear focused/thought provoking compared to c99. dont forget there are indicas out there that have a clear energetic high and also there are sativas that have stony narcotic high. indica finishing times dont always reflect in the high.
Generally I d say the c99 is overall more potent but A11 is the way to go if one looks for a special up clear/ euphoric / motivational that allows you to complete job tasks . it also is really great for listening or playing music or for other artistic activities.
At least that is what I 've experienced myself and that is the opinion many friends that have grown both a11 & c99 have too. I personally like both strains and I d love to grow em again sometime.
jessE,
yes a11 = c99 x genius
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