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So what is your opinion about that Jesse ?
"I was the day of the arrest not even in Santa Cruz, but in the Netherlands", Watson's comments.
Originally Posted by Skunkha
A member of this forum has provided a translated link to Dutch Parliamentary discussions privately to me. The information states that Sam was arrested in the U.S. (presumptly) with the charge of: cultivation for sale purposes. Though this information is not a 'smoking gun' for anything nefarious 'on its face', it does show gaps in credibility.
This information Skunkha is mentioning is from the 'ikreeger document' which can be found below.Originally Posted by Skunkha
A member of this forum has provided a translated link to Dutch Parliamentary discussions privately to me. The information states that Sam was arrested in the U.S. (presumptly) with the charge of: cultivation for sale purposes. Though this information is not a 'smoking gun' for anything nefarious 'on its face', it does show gaps in credibility.
Originally posted by Shantibaba
Hi All
listen as it is a touchy topic depending upon the side of the water you are on, let`s call it a difference of opinion based on similar evidence. The point to all of this is that certain things are documented well and have been covered in Holland by a radio program that authenticated their facts before going to air. Make of it what you wish to believe and let`s be civilised in discussion or remain silent. I do not wish to begin to tell off people or ban them so please do not make me start....all the best Sb
Sam and Nevil use to work a bit on strains together but when it was revealed that Sam and his crew of Americans in Holland all were part of informants for the DEA in America on a radio program in Holland they split to the UK to do other things. Sam never started or owned a seed company so his claim to all the strains that became famous years ago are not really warranted.
Hi Namaskar,
Thank you for this contribution below, as Ive mentioned before its amazing what one can find with a little bit of research.
According to Bayer Canada, the cost of Sativex per vial is $124.95 (base price). Each vial contains approximately 51 sprays. The average dose per day is five sprays at an average cost of $12.25 per day. Based on this dosage, the base cost would be approximately $4,475 (the retail cost will be more depending upon pharmacy dispensing fees and other factors). Since the dosage is variable, to a maximum of 14 sprays per day, costs would increase or decrease accordingly.
Mr Watson of HortaPharm makes the same point: "Domestic users can make a contribution, but they don't know the profile of the plant they are treating themselves with. The average hashish in a coffee-shop product is 5 per cent THC. We can already make it 30 per cent. So, what are they doing to it?" He believes the bright future of the drug is contained in the greenhouses of HortaPharm and GW Pharmaceuticals - Cannabis: a year that changed minds - The Independent.
At issue seems to be the fact the Skunk man wishes to have his name stricken from the court records with his lawyers best argument being, "There has been no trial, and therefore no condemnation." (quote based off of Google translation).
Do you know what exact bust is Sam referring to (when he said he wasn't even in the US) ? Is it the ('82) Sacred Seeds bust ?
Plus he has never mentioned there were any other growers/members in S.Seeds. If noone else was a member..and the bust Sam mentions is the SSeeds bust then who did the police bust in the US since Sam was in Holland at the time as he claims ?
l33t
Sam_Skunkman said:"In '82 I came home one night and turned on the TV. Just as they went to commercial the news bimbo teased the story, "comin right up after
this" police official say they got the source of the skunk. Yeah right I thought, we'd heard these claims before, always to be followed by shot of some deputies pullingthree scragly plants from some poor sucker's patch. This time it was different, this time they were standing in front of a warehouse. Sacred Seeds was busted in '82. The Skunkman was arrested and the cops were in possetion of the groups main seedmaking op."
-Not true at all, I never grew in a warehouse ever, and did not get busted either, this is just made up lies.
from:http://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=335540&postcount=65
One interesting tidbit of info, hortapharm bought the Love Potion lines from reeferman last year for a 6 figure sum, i forget how much but it might have been 450 grand. The reason being that they want to extract the monoterpenoid limonene from it to put in Sativex. Love Potion is G13 x Colombian Gold and variations on that cross, #1 was the f1, #2 a BX to the colombian to bring out the lemon pledge phenos. It is the high levels of limonene that make Love Potion so lemony tasting and it would take Hortapharm years to breed their own high limonene line so they just bought one in from reef.
d-Limonene promotes upper digestive health by coating the stomach lining and neutralizing acid.
Hi genegenieSo Shanti is involved now too yeah?
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http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=2868In the late 90s I gave plants to Soma, and he began a seed company a year later too…mixing his skunks to my males. This has occurred many times to me just look at the Spanish seed companies and 10 years ago…none existed until I went there in 1995 and gave away 3 kilos of seed to growers via Canamo magazine….but that is another story too.
Hi Moose,Originally posted by Smokin Moose
I have two questions now...
Is Sam currently allowed entry to the US, and are there outstanding legal matters under US law that relate to the 1982 bust?
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=120564Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_Skunkman
G13 is not from University of Miss, I have been to the facility, I was invited to visit by Dr El Sohly , I asked them about G13 and they looked in their records and said they never had a plant called G13, they did not even have clones until a few yeas ago.
-SamS
Hi l33t,Originally posted by l33t
From other online translations and reading the actual text in Dutch using common sense, it seems that the text refers to information found on Sam in Santa Cruz Justice (dept / ministry ?) Computer records . I 'm not sure that it specifically refers to Court Records though. It could mean he has a police record/file , correct me if i 'm wrong here.
As you know I 've been interested in the history of haze (among other strains) for quite sometime now , actually since I first read about haze and its hazy history..but for the most part I had focused on the history of Haze and specifically on the MNS haze side of things.british hempire said:"'Magic' Ed Selezny - who the hell? Actual name?"
"I passed on l33t's research to Joe Pietri ages ago and Marco Renda has since told me that finding out the Selezny name had helped a bit with the research Joe, Jerry Biesler and others are doing so maybe more info will be forthcoming from that direction before too long."