Vacuum Seal on Jars

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curious101

Member
I have been storing in mason jars but never used a vacuum seal machine

Is It necessary for long term storage or will they be good without them

I would have to buy one
 
Broseidon

Broseidon

Member
I doubt you need a vacuum sealer.

True vacuum sealing is something one should avoid imho when dealing with cannabis.
I speak from experience...

Tried to seal the canna in a vacuum bag once and only once.
Vacuum means you get all the air out which means your buds will be squished to hell and back and you will be left with an incredibly dense brick of bud that looks like crap and is no fun to deal with. I don't even want to think about the amount of terpenes that got stock to the plastic bag ...


Jars are fine, even without a vacuum imho.

But if you insist on a vacuum seal, heed my advice and don't overdo it. just pull SOME of the air out.

I believe very few people vacuum seal their jars.

I personally don't even use jars but food-grade plastic containers. And I have stored my canna in there for a year without ill effects.
 
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jack hairy

Banned
vacuuming in a jar will keep them from getting crushed.

i have both size attachments for vacuuming jars with a foodsaver.
i dont really use them, but i have and it works.
it is fun opening a jar and getting that nice whooosh of air entering.

The purpose is to remove the oxygen present in the air to prevent interaction/degradation.

sure the seals work well, but they hold that oxygen in unless you suck it out first.
 
PlantManBee

PlantManBee

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IMO, we burp the jars early in the cure because we WANT some O2 for decarboxylation. A little is what is trapped inside. More is not likely to pass the seal.

My bud doesn't get crushed inside my mason jars.
 
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Pineterp

New member
Would it not make sense to vac seal in jars after the cure for long-term storage? I notice a big drop in quality with herb that's been in a jar for a year. It just gets bland, taste and effect.
 
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jack hairy

Banned
yes, after its cured and doesnt need to be checked on anymore, put it in jars and seal them up.

burping the jars is for slow release of moisture.
you want as little decarboxylation as possible for smoked buds.
if you wanted your buds decarbed before smoking them, everyone would be cooking their buds before rolling a joint.
THCA>THC>CBN
heat from smoking converts THCA to THC to get you high.
THC with heat can break down into CBN, which doesnt get you high.
how much and at what rate...?
so its better to convert as you consume than to risk degrading before you get to consume.
 
PlantManBee

PlantManBee

Well-known member
Just my opinions y'all.

The masons work well for me.

Some of us no longer smoke either. I would if it still made my lungs happy. There are also a few studies about lost/incomplete decarboxylation with burning IIRC.

Really though, I go through it fast. And I do overkill in many other areas. LOL
 
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Big Sur

Big Sur

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Every time I have used sealed jars my weed rotted on me. No matter how dry the stems were. I have talked to a lot of people that have had the same experience. I have stored weed in zip lock baggies for many years that never went bad on me. Dunno why that is, but that's my experience.
 
Broseidon

Broseidon

Member
I personally haven't tried mason jars yet because they are seethrough...

Sure you can put the stuff in a box/cabinet what have you but why not just use a container that blocks out light as well?
That's how I ended up with the food-grade plastic containers.
Can't really compare it to anything as of yet but have been satisfied with them so far...
 
Marcus_in_the_Darkus

Marcus_in_the_Darkus

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Big Sur said:
Every time I have used sealed jars my weed rotted on me. No matter how dry the stems were. I have talked to a lot of people that have had the same experience. I have stored weed in zip lock baggies for many years that never went bad on me. Dunno why that is, but that's my experience.
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I've noticed that some of my stash gets a certain smell after a while that I'm afraid may be onset of rot. Noble rot perhaps? :D I threw away a couple Zs of Nevs Mango because the buds had visible mold fibers. It never happens to weed that I line dry during winter, so I should probably dry my herb better before I jar it. Vacuum bag sealer would work but mine crushes buds even at the low vac setting. Maybe I'll go back to ziplocks. Yet another retro element of that 70s weed I seek.
 
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Indi

Active member
After I fill my jars with fully cured buds,not packed,I put lid on loosely,run glass under hot tap water then tighten lid.
As jar cools down you will hear the lid pop and they are vacuumed sealed.
Surely you have seen someone canning up fruit or vegetables and they boil the jars and then tighten lid.As jar cools the metallic pop can be heard and they are sealed until you pry off lid.
I have used Mylar bags and seal them up on edges using a hot iron.
Ive cured in both jars and mylar bags because they can be reopened and sealed until its ready for final storage.
Now I store everything in larger mylar bags until I’m ready to use then it goes i jar for daily storage and use because they are smaller and easy to open and reseal to keep moisture constant.
 
longball

longball

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@curious101,New thoughts. Is storing with Integra Boost a bad idea? I like the idea it will help keep the flower more fresh with proper humidity. Thought the 55% would be good for storage

Hello curiuos101!

Good question! I have been using the other company, simply because I had heard of them first, and have used their products to preserve freshness for the last 10 years. They work as advertised. I have some jars 18 months old and people
are amazed are how fresh the pot still smells. Fresher than the pot they just harvested in fall 2020. I have heard many good things about Integra but I can't say they could be much better than the other company. I keep a hydrogmeter in each jar
and they stay at what the pack says they should be at.

You might want to try both the 62% and the 55% to see which you like best. The other company sells 58% and 62%. My friend likes the 58% and I like the 62%. The 58% is a bit too dry for my liking of long term storage. The 62% needs to set out
a bit before smoking but smells and tastes better and is stickier.

I use either amber or black mason jars as they keep light out. I also keep all leaves on my buds until I am going to smoke them. In every comparison so far my buds have smelled better, tasted better, and are stickier months longer than my friends
who use the humidity packs but trim their buds before jarring. Any questions, feel free to ask. Hope this helps.

Good Luck!

Longball
 
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MImedpatient

MNS Hall of Fame
curious101 said:
New thoughts

Is storing with Integra Boost a bad idea? I like the idea it will help keep the flower more fresh with proper humidity

Thought the 55% would be good for storage
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longball said:
@curious101,New thoughts. Is storing with Integra Boost a bad idea? I like the idea it will help keep the flower more fresh with proper humidity. Thought the 55% would be good for storage

Hello curiuos101!

Good question! I have been using the other company, simply because I had heard of them first, and have used their products to preserve freshness for the last 10 years. They work as advertised. I have some jars 18 months old and people
are amazed are how fresh the pot still smells. Fresher than the pot they just harvested in fall 2020. I have heard many good things about Integra but I can't say they could be much better than the other company. I keep a hydrogmeter in each jar
and they stay at what the pack says they should be at.

You might want to try both the 62% and the 55% to see which you like best. The other company sells 58% and 62%. My friend likes the 58% and I like the 62%. The 58% is a bit too dry for my liking of long term storage. The 62% needs to set out
a bit before smoking but smells and tastes better and is stickier.

I use either amber or black mason jars as they keep light out. I also keep all leaves on my buds until I am going to smoke them. In every comparison so far my buds have smelled better, tasted better, and are stickier months longer than my friends
who use the humidity packs but trim their buds before jarring. Any questions, feel free to ask. Hope this helps.

Good Luck!

Longball
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so, I have made the 62%, 55%, and 49% packs part of my drying and curing regimen so as to make trimming happen fully on my schedule. I cut the branches off the plants I hung once they reach snappy branches, and put the branches in a tote w/ 2 62% packs, and laying the branches out for an hour a day then replacing them w/ the pack till I get to the next step. I run them through the Debudder, and store the buds and leaves in another tote w/ a 55% pack and burp for an hour a day until ready for the next step. I run the buds through the TrimBag, then a leaf bowl trimmer and store w/ the 55% pack for curing, then final trim happens, and then the 49% pack for long term storage and in the smoking jar. I want Boveda to make thier 39% packs in a larger size, as they only exist for hygrometer calibration right now. I feel 39% would be the perfect pack percentage for pulling out and rolling joints, blunts, and packing bowls that are ready to smoke ASAP.

The reason I like the lower humidity packs, is my definition of long term storage is a few months. my patients smoke multiple big fat blunts a day. my longest kept flower was when I pulled a bunch of super yielding g13hp x og hybrids and had bud for a year, this was before the 49% pack was available, and I stored it all w/ the 62% packs the whole time. I did feel like I had to air the bud out at least once a week w/ the 62% pack though.
 
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