leadplant
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If you have 100's of seeds you should do alright. I may have given the impression that great hazes dont exist. They do exist, but you need to run alot of seeds. No getting around that unless you get lucky with a pack - which does happen, but dont count on it. The addition of skunk and NL juices up the haze considerably and increases the odds of finding bona fide keepers which is the reason that mango haze seems to be preferrred over nevils haze. Flowering from cuts instead of seeds seems to help too. Also I hear alot about extra long cures making a huge difference in potency. I havent done 6 mos cures but have done 3 months and it wasnt a whole lot different potencywise - smoother and perhaps tastier yes.
I would strongly advise would be haze seekers to make an open pollination from their pack of seeds. The more packs you use, the better. Tom Hill recommends popping lots of haze seeds at a time and keeping only those veg plants that smell - before even getting to the flowering stage. That right there necessitates alot of seeds cuz hazes rarely smell much in veg and even in flower too quite often they dont smell much.
Thats where I'm at with it anyways - popping f2's. As for my nevils haze, I'm not thrilled with it but I'm gonna keep it because I like the smell it leaves in a room after smoking it. I call it the nostalgic smell, reminiscent of a leather or an antique shop. Thats the main attraction it has for me. Probably still good for crosses too even though its not that potent.
I am of the belief that potency is not a stable fixed trait anyways for the most part which allows for great progeny to occasionally come from just average parentage and vica versa.
Apple trees are the same way. Histroically most apples were not that sweet; didnt matter if both parents were sweet, the progeny usually was not sweet - only occasionally did you luck with a sweet apple which was then cloned massively. All the supermarket apple varieties are just elite clones. Apples are just like weed.
Run lots of seeds.
When I read these grow reports of folks running a few seeds at a time and finding greatness, I really have to wonder. How old is this person? How long have they been smoking? Youngsters get high more easily and are less able to judge true quality. On the other hand, oldsters such as myself have too high of a tolerance and only the very best will satisfy.
Placebo effect - some growers will go through a phase where they have convinced themselves that their own shit is great. These delusions can be persistant and only the test of time punctuated with a variety of reality checks can pop these fanciful bubbles. I think I went through this myself but now I cant deny it anymore. My nevils haze is just average at best, my search is not over, I need fresh genetics, and those genetics are going to be something besides MNS if I choose to buy some.
I would strongly advise would be haze seekers to make an open pollination from their pack of seeds. The more packs you use, the better. Tom Hill recommends popping lots of haze seeds at a time and keeping only those veg plants that smell - before even getting to the flowering stage. That right there necessitates alot of seeds cuz hazes rarely smell much in veg and even in flower too quite often they dont smell much.
Thats where I'm at with it anyways - popping f2's. As for my nevils haze, I'm not thrilled with it but I'm gonna keep it because I like the smell it leaves in a room after smoking it. I call it the nostalgic smell, reminiscent of a leather or an antique shop. Thats the main attraction it has for me. Probably still good for crosses too even though its not that potent.
I am of the belief that potency is not a stable fixed trait anyways for the most part which allows for great progeny to occasionally come from just average parentage and vica versa.
Apple trees are the same way. Histroically most apples were not that sweet; didnt matter if both parents were sweet, the progeny usually was not sweet - only occasionally did you luck with a sweet apple which was then cloned massively. All the supermarket apple varieties are just elite clones. Apples are just like weed.
Run lots of seeds.
When I read these grow reports of folks running a few seeds at a time and finding greatness, I really have to wonder. How old is this person? How long have they been smoking? Youngsters get high more easily and are less able to judge true quality. On the other hand, oldsters such as myself have too high of a tolerance and only the very best will satisfy.
Placebo effect - some growers will go through a phase where they have convinced themselves that their own shit is great. These delusions can be persistant and only the test of time punctuated with a variety of reality checks can pop these fanciful bubbles. I think I went through this myself but now I cant deny it anymore. My nevils haze is just average at best, my search is not over, I need fresh genetics, and those genetics are going to be something besides MNS if I choose to buy some.