Grover's Stones

The Grey Man

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I'm not really intending to make a big story on this thread but I feel I should say a few things about this variety as the other threads don't really do it justice...
I grew out a whole packet of The Stones, completely fucked up the plants with burnt buds growing into the lights, etc (the plants are stretchy) and lost most of the top colas (I had a lot going on and didn't have the time to care properly for them...hey ho!)

Anyway, the taste is a mkskunk. A few had a really strong MasterKush flava (more so than anything I actually found in a packet of MasterKush/Skunk I grew recently!) and I thought that maybe I'd wasted my time on the others but so far every plant has got me so high. Proper buzzing - and not just one of the plants or 2 of them (like SSH or Mango Haze) but all of them. The yields are great too. It is a really pleasant sativa high, especially good in a bong.

I'm not sure if this strain will stand alone too well (people seem to go for fruity these days. The aroma may seem subdued at first but it just needs a cure to bring it out), which is a real shame as it is a fine fine sativa smoke. I hope I am wrong. - but I really can see the male of this variety making a superb cross with extreme (and highly flavoured) sativas. The high would be sativa all the way but there would be yield and the flowering time would be lessened slightly. I would watch out for this strain re-appearing elsewhere. And rightfully so.

I would grow this variety again - it gets me higher than the SSH and is far easier to grow. The kush doesn't lessen the THC high but it seems to focus it, maybe..

With careful selection you could find something with a great flavour, I would think.

This is my first Haze AC cross and I'm impressed with the high, for sure. I wonder how high the NL/Haze x Haze AC is !!! The haze flavour doesn't really come through on this cross but perhaps on some others?

I would recommend this to all smokers except those lovers of extreme tropical sativas, which take months and taste and smoke like pure electricity! Even there, you will not be too disappointed.....the high is a euphoric one with a nice body relax that doesn't put you to bed.

Don't ask for photos - I can't be fucked!

I hope this helps someone,

Grover
 
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The Grey Man

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Mmmmm - the flava is getting richer by the day. It is really growing on me. I'm noticing floral notes coming through slightly. Perhaps this is haze AC at work?
The high is laid back but very euphoric considering how dense the bud structure is. This is definitely a haze but it has the densest buds for any haze I ever had.
The best commercial haze so far - but I haven't tried Critical Mass x Haze AC yet...

Flava-wise, you're definitely smoking kush with this stuff but the high that comes from the haze makes this the highest kush ever.

Definitely a very interesting strain. I wonder if I could grow this in an English greenhouse.....
 
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The Grey Man

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I can't get over what a great union of indica and sativa this strain is.
The taste is really growing on me, too.

Top stuff. Superb for a chilled sunny day in the garden.

Some plants are slightly more euphoria and some are slightly more chillax but all are similar just slightly less and slightly more.
 

fxginbcn

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wow no other responses?

yo... great thread greyman....

superb!

love to see some pics if possible

Be Hazed as my boy sammy says

love an respect
 

nu-bube

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Hi Grayman,

Thanx for your report, I am very interested in this strain, ( I currently have MK/SK in seedling stage.):)

How long did you flower for? How much did it stretch by? Was it a light feeder?

Thanx again,

Peace

Bube
 

Joe King Park

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Mmmmm - the flava is getting richer by the day. It is really growing on me. I'm noticing floral notes coming through slightly. Perhaps this is haze AC at work?
The high is laid back but very euphoric considering how dense the bud structure is. This is definitely a haze but it has the densest buds for any haze I ever had.
The best commercial haze so far - but I haven't tried Critical Mass x Haze AC yet...

Flava-wise, you're definitely smoking kush with this stuff but the high that comes from the haze makes this the highest kush ever.

Definitely a very interesting strain. I wonder if I could grow this in an English greenhouse.....
You Are Good At English Greenhouse Grows Greyver
Peace
JKP
 

The Grey Man

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hey thanks,JKP - you should see my greenhouse now...

hello nu-bube...they all stretched much much more than I thought they would.
Go with clones. Very young ones...

I would always recommend a very light feeding schedule with ALL hazes. Start of at a bare minimum. Just keep them alive and don't try to force anything. Most hazes hate nutes. You get this fluffy, leafy, vegetable matter! This one could probably take a bit more but take it slowly, slowly.

Also, once cured, the Kush side takes over a bit, in the high. Pretty stony!

The flowering time is at LEAST 10 weeks. More like 12..


As for your MK/Skunk, keep cuts of ALL the females as 1 will be stunning...watch out for mould (harvest on time and prune for SOG, not single cola plants, if you can...if you see a bud which isn't developing like the others then check the stem for moulds..)

Also, MK/Skunk needs a good cure to develop the earthy MasterKush flavour and the stone also gets much stronger with time.... dry well and cure her before making any decisions on which is the keeper (hence why I said to keep all the females as clones...)

For me, the Haze AC in The Stones makes it much more interesting to smoke than MK/Skunk, which is a unique tasting and strong indica but without the sativa 'high' of it's cousin. It's more of a medicinal plant...

FX - hey bro, thanks for stopping by...see you soon..
 

The Grey Man

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As for a quick update,

the MasterKush side of this plant has developed much more than the haze side, in terms of strength of hit and flava, with curing.

This plant deserves to be thought of as a Masterkush hybrid, not a Haze hybrid...It is fairly stoney, especially this 1 pheno, 'The Stoner', hehe...

It is at the head of the table in the MasterKush family of strains, though...it is much more interesting to smoke than the others (except 1 particular pheno of the MasterKaze, which I loved...) due to the haze in there.

I prefer the taste of my SSH, I also changed my mind with the highs, too... SSH is much higher than The Stones (I just didn't realise at the time, quite how strong my SSH keeper actually is. Proper introspection, a real sativa high..A man is allowed to change his mind!)

Still, for MasterKush lovers, this hybrid is a must. You will find a very MasterKush tasting plant, still strong and stoney but also with a large helping of 'lift' from the haze. It takes a lot longer than straight MK/Skunk but if you are curious about The Haze but don't want to let go of the stoney hit you are used to (or need...) then you should definitely try this. It is well worth the extra month or so.
 

nu-bube

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Hello again Grayman,

Thank you for all the good info.:)

I am afraid I probably wont be able to clone these on this run. You see, space is at a ridiculous premium where I live, ( my USABLE flower space is just 2'x5' x5' 1/2 high:()

I am doing research on building a small mother/clone cabinet, but I am afraid I wont have it before these plants are done. At least I still have half a pack left.

Do you have any experience with the Mk/Afg haze, (Kaze,) to compare The Stones to?

Thank You again Grayman.

Peace,
Bube
 
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The Grey Man

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Actually yes, Mkaze plants were much more indica and shorter. They flowered quicker and were skunkier. There was 1 lovely hazy phenotype with a real floral type flavour and a lovely euphoric high (before the body relax set in.)
Other than that, there were many different phenos and most were strong.
It performed well outdoors and in the greenhouse.

I liked it.
 

The Grey Man

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These plants have reached that stage where the ones on the indica side are reaching the point of being un-smokeably strong. One hit sleepy timers. I discover a plant like that and have to add her fruit to the pile of 'bud for another day.' Now I see why this union is called 'The Stones.'

It doesn't matter how many times I grow a MasterKush hybrid, I am always surprised by how strong the medicinal side of the bud becomes through the cure. It always starts of pleasant and tasty but over time gets way too heavy for me. It's not a smack on the head, like with the worst (best?) afghanis but more of a gently drift into the land of nod. A bed-time lullaby, if you will.

Anybody growing these plants for medicine who is disappointed in the strength, put your medicine aside for a month longer and come back to it. Outdoors/Greenhouse - leave it until Christmas if you want a strong, strong smoke (from many years experience with MK, MK/Sk and MKaze.) The strength just builds and builds.

The hazier girls are pleasant, on the other hand. Buzzy, happy, hippy and uplifting and slightly floral tasting. Much kinder.

Looking back, I feel I over fertilised these girls a touch. They could be better were I to go for another round with them (but I'm not. It's the SSH keeper for me, for now..) I'm learning that Shanti's haze hybrids (even the quarter hazes) are much better for having less food. You would think that the indica side would add hunger and perhaps it does - for some of the shorter flowering phenos - but all the others, especially the hazy ones, don't seem to react well to that at all.
 
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Barnflowers

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un-smokeably strong?

Hi Grey Man, great post.
I'm new to this forum and this hobby and I'm learning in leaps and bounds. Currently working on my first grow, a skunk variety from BC Seedking in Canada.

I was lucky enough to score a packet of 'The Stones' during a Mr Nice auction, so they are still on their way (payment is confirmed so that's cool):)

Anyway, I enjoyed your write up and the casual smoke report, so this variety gets really stoney sleepy time couch lock after cure eh?

Quick question, do you think harvesting before the trichs are cloudy would help the type of high to more up? Less sleepy? Or just watch for haze type phenos?

Thanks,
Mr Barnflowers
 

The Grey Man

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hey Barnflowers, thanks for taking the time to read my waffle!

The truthful answer is that I haven't spent enough time with this plant to answer your (very good) question fairly..do bear in mind that I am a sativa smoker and have a low tolerance to indicas. You may find it well within your acceptable levels of stonyness.

Still, having said that, I would first try as many phenos as you can to get a feel for the strain then decide what you want out of the selections you make. Once you have decided what you are aiming for, make your selections (for whatever reasons.) I would keep a haze leaning girl back and also experiment with a more kushy pheno and experience the difference between the two first hand. I am leaning towards the hazy pheno, though as harvesting early may just mean that the haze side of the plant doesn't have time to mature properly and express itself fully. Only experience will tell you. This 'dialling in' process of learning about a new strain is one of the best things about growing.

One piece of advise I would give you is to go easy on the nutes, especially N, and watch out for moulds in the dense colas at the top. I'm sure you will enjoy this strain. The kush really comes through.
 

Barnflowers

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Thanks Grey Man
I am growing organically (soil) so hopefully I will not be over feeding them.

One of the reasons I got into growing my own was because I got my hands on some Purple Kush from a dispensary (through a freind of a freind of a freind) as opposed to my usual questionable sources. I can only describe the body stone as 'luxurious', very comforting, but only good for the end of the day. I almost never smoke during the day so maybe a strong Indica will suit me.

I also won a packet of Dreamtime in an auction, I'm not sure which packet I'm more excited about.

Also with the stones do you think it would respond to lst training like this? The strain shown is called 'Ace of Spades'

I believe that 'The Stones' has a tendency to stretch, is that correct, kind of a lanky plant?



 

Barnflowers

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To summarize the structure that best suits that style of lst.

.....this method works the best with strains that display "single cola dominance"......like afghani's, and kushes....."balls on a sring"...."poodles"....strains that have minimal secondary branching common with sativa dominant varieties.....

So, would 'the stones' be described this way, structure wise?

Mr Barnflowers
 
Great thread!!!

I really wanted to try this strain. Eventually... Lol.

Seems like Shanti did a great job with the male.

I truely believe that male selection is the next phase in cannabis evolution.

Think about how many males are discarded every year. How many OG kushes chems bubbas etc that have dissapeared because no one bothered to look?
 
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