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Morphote 12-01-2010 02:05 PM

How To Grow Neville's Haze
 
Hello MNS Crew

Of all the beans in my collection, I have to say the most
intimidating ones are the Neville's Haze. I know many do
struggle with this strain, and I would like to compare yur
methods side by side so we can all see how the pros are
growing this strain. Of course, you could go through the
threads to discover this information, but I think it would
be beneficial to all to boil it down 2 brass tax, list all the
methods used, and open it up to a general discussion on
the best way 2 grow this strain. My hope is that we can
all learn to grow this strain together, and all realize the
potential locked in the genes of this truly magical plant.
Please give as much info as you can regarding your part
icular methods and keys to success---nutrients, light cy
cles, mediums, flowering periods, temperatures, etc. Pix
of finished products along with odor/flavor descriptions
or certain bud/plant traits wuld also really help people in
locking down the desired phenotypes. Thank u 4 ur help.

Props2 Nevil & Shanti.

matthewriot 12-02-2010 02:44 AM

good idear Fresh!

raydiator 12-02-2010 03:31 AM

Great idea...looking 2 grab some NH while we have fresh stock...and the long flowering haze's are def humbling so a one-stop-shop would be perfect...

Ouchie 12-02-2010 06:59 AM

I'm running Neville's Skunk right now, and honestly it's less picky than Super Silver Haze so far :) I'd imagine Neville's Haze itself is probably a pain in the ass heh, I'd love to hear some ideas on tuning your favorite cuts of her in. I'm sure it will help with some of my other Haze dominant phenotypes.

Morphote 12-02-2010 01:37 PM

Yosemite Sam's Recipe
 
Thanks for dropping in my friends. Our first contribution comes to us
from Yosemite Sam. But first, I'd like to give his recipe some context.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skunkha (Post 74731)
TD won the Cannabis Cup but i liked Barney's Nevil's Haze a lot better. TD is chunky and has more Indica in it than Nevil's. all of Barney's buds this year that i witnessed were expertly grown: just beautiful. i kept going back and getting more Nevil's because the "high" was better than anything else. Barney's Dr. Grinspoon cost 2 Euros more than Nevil's but was not as strong or interesting.

Turned out it was our very own Y. Sam's batch! Y.Sam has been gra
cious enough to bless us with his recipe for success. Thank you Sam!

Quote:

I'm happy to share my knowledge.
I use rockwool slabs as a medium.
Nutes: calcinit(N) and Kristalon Brown(K and P), both from Yara.
Select a nice mother from yr seeds and make good cuttings of it, very important.
Grow the cuttings till there about 15cm high and are rooted well and switch to flower.
Keep yr grow room warm and get plenty of refreshed air. Mke sure the air that flows in yr room is not colder dan 15degrC.
Use good light systems with fitting flower bulbs.
Ec level 2
Ph 5.8
Give yr plants lots of room, i never put more then 5 under 1 lamp(400 or 600W) or 1mē.
Give them lots of love and fresh nutes every day.
Feed them by hand if you can so you can observe what they drink.
That rounds up the headlights.
All depends on yr room, setup and care. Nothing more nor less.
Nutes are also a very important factor.
If you can't get the onces i mentioned then try to get 2 seperate nutes.
N and P&K nutes.
Add them seperately to yr water at the right dose until the EC is around 2, except the first 2 weeks, then 1.8 is sufficient.
If you have other questions just shoot.
Good luck, the NH is a real beauty!
Y. Sam
And here are some pics of the finished product:

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/picture.p...pictureid=3255
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/picture.p...pictureid=3254
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/picture.p...pictureid=3253
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/picture.p...pictureid=3252
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/picture.p...pictureid=3251

Beautiful in every way!

Yosemite Sam 12-02-2010 02:11 PM

in Theory...
 
Hi all,
The tricky thing about the given info is that is it's all just theory and putting this theory into practice is where it often goes wrong.
There's no guaranteed succes.
I've known some close acquaintances of mine that i helped setting up go wrong. Same set-up, same plants, same nutes, same everything except the growroom and grower and it went wrong over and over again. It took many grows before they had a nice result. The opposite has also happened, no experience, no knowledge about anything and first run "bingo"...
It's not only knowing the right tools, it's also knowing how to use them, when to use them, the combination of factors that must be right in the right stage of the grow and so on...
I also think that the grower him- or herself has alot to do with it. The innerself, feelings and periode in once life has it's effect on the crop.
Never the less, if somebody is interested enough in how to grow this beautifull haze hybrid and they are pursistant enough to go through with it, no matter what the first results are, will eventually see there efforts return to them in a really nice smoke.
There are many ways to get a nice result... Experiment! There's no substitute for experience!
Try to put the quality before the quantity.
Good luck,
Y.Sam

Ouchie 12-02-2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam (Post 75381)
Hi all,
The tricky thing about the given info is that is it's all just theory and putting this theory into practice is where it often goes wrong.
There's no guaranteed succes.
I've known some close acquaintances of mine that i helped setting up go wrong. Same set-up, same plants, same nutes, same everything except the growroom and grower and it went wrong over and over again. It took many grows before they had a nice result. The opposite has also happened, no experience, no knowledge about anything and first run "bingo"...
It's not only knowing the right tools, it's also knowing how to use them, when to use them, the combination of factors that must be right in the right stage of the grow and so on...
I also think that the grower him- or herself has alot to do with it. The innerself, feelings and periode in once life has it's effect on the crop.
Never the less, if somebody is interested enough in how to grow this beautifull haze hybrid and they are pursistant enough to go through with it, no matter what the first results are, will eventually see there efforts return to them in a really nice smoke.
There are many ways to get a nice result... Experiment! There's no substitute for experience!
Try to put the quality before the quantity.
Good luck,
Y.Sam

My first crop was FAR superior to someone I know that has been at it for 15+ years. I did the research, put the time and effort in, and started with decent genetics. I also loved my work, I think that was the biggest part. Some people just don't have that green thumb :)

Yosemite Sam 12-02-2010 02:18 PM

Hey Ouchie,
I hear you there man.
I share your views on that green thumb.
Cheers,
Y.Sam

Ouchie 12-02-2010 02:20 PM

I'm not sure if there's a saying or quote or whatever for this, but it's words I've taken to heart.

No one is better than you at something you're passionate about.

Skunkha 12-02-2010 05:29 PM

those are the buds
 
thanks FG for posting those bud shots. so did YS grow those? i'm impressed.

nice intact buds for such a fluffy strain. Greenhouse's Neville's (sic) Haze was bright green when they showed it to me. i passed.

i have six seeds of Nevil's Haze from Shanti soaking as i write. i will keep a sharp eye out for the pheno that produces these types of buds.

HHHG 12-02-2010 07:12 PM

I haven't had any problems with NH, but I'm not a newbie either.

I think the biggest potential problem with growing it indoors is the extreme height. With seedlings this is easy to control by starting 12/12 from day 1 (no separate veg period) and topping when the time is right. Even with these measures it can still grow fairly tall and require tying to a stake.

Don't have the plants too close to the light. Like most Haze dominant plants it can't take the heat.

I also feed with low does nutes through the entire life cycle - 15ml PureBlendPro Grow for the first couple weeks then switch to 30ml PureBlendPro Bloom until the end of flowering.

Morphote 12-02-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skunkha (Post 75423)
thanks FG for posting those bud shots. so did YS grow those? i'm impressed.

nice intact buds for such a fluffy strain. Greenhouse's Neville's (sic) Haze was bright green when they showed it to me. i passed.

i have six seeds of Nevil's Haze from Shanti soaking as i write. i will keep a sharp eye out for the pheno that produces these types of buds.

No problem, Skunka. Yes indeed he did, my good man. I
too am very impressed with his work. Bud loox delicious!

Best o luck with yours.

Morphote 12-02-2010 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HHHG (Post 75432)
I haven't had any problems with NH, but I'm not a newbie either.

I think the biggest potential problem with growing it indoors is the extreme height. With seedlings this is easy to control by starting 12/12 from day 1 (no separate veg period) and topping when the time is right. Even with these measures it can still grow fairly tall and require tying to a stake.

Don't have the plants too close to the light. Like most Haze dominant plants it can't take the heat.

I also feed with low does nutes through the entire life cycle - 15ml PureBlendPro Grow for the first couple weeks then switch to 30ml PureBlendPro Bloom until the end of flowering.

Enlightening post, HHHG.

Thanx 4 ur advice m8.

pluko 03-06-2011 06:28 PM

Easy peaple and great buds y.sam i just had i little question regarding your e.c2.This seems a little high to me considering its nevils.
Would you consider say 14 to low?
Im starting these real soon and just trying to get as much info as possible cheers in advance.

Yosemite Sam 04-04-2011 01:12 PM

@pluko:

my ec is 2 in full bloom pluko.
I usually start of with an ec of 1.5 - 1.6 when the cuts are still small and increase to 1.8 when i put them on slabs.
After the first week bloom i increase gradually to ec level 2.
This within the first 4 weeks bloom.
I would recommend lower levels to start yr first run but i would def. give them at least a level of 1.8 in full bloom.
Regards,
YS

Batman 07-06-2011 08:32 AM

hello fellows,

im very interested in NH too, i would to ask to the nevils haze growers, does NH show sex easily in 18 hours of light in preflower ?
thanks a lot.
take care

Bat

Shovelhandle 11-17-2011 05:23 PM

I vegged my NH for 8 weeks (first topping at the 3rd node) and they showed sex at day 10 of bloom.

rhinoman 11-17-2011 06:11 PM

I've started out 12/12 on the flowering cycle that seemed to take forever. So i went to 11,1/2 and it seems to be goin better now.

CecilGreenLeaf 11-28-2011 07:32 PM

Hello, all I have not grown Neville's Haze yet, but I too am very interested in this strain, and though I could contribute what I have read. Here are a few things that I have picked up from reading others grow logs. First Haze and haze dominate hybrids don't seem to like intense light, I have read many times that the haze plants are kept to the outside edge of the grow area. Clones always finnish faster than from seed, some advise from growing indoors from seed all together, especailly Neville's. One last thing is to leave your plants in one place try not moving them or even rotating them. It causes the plant to use energy to redirect itself that it could be using for other things. If any of this is incorrect please let me know, I know some of these things are also personal opinion. Peace

PlantManBee 11-28-2011 09:35 PM

how NOT to grow NH ;)
 
I have one finishing up now. It's been on 11/13 for 2 days shy of 15 weeks. It might finish any day now, most of the calyxes are swollen but there are still new white pistils forming.

She's had a rough life. I started her at 11/13 and was forced to move before she or her brother showed sex. She went to a friends house for 10 day and he managed to kill almost everything I gave him....15 c99 clones and some other odds and ends. He kept everything in a shower-stall....basically everything on the verge of floating. He started with an 18/6 schedule but freaked out at the dying plants and switched to 24/0. only 4 plants survived.

She also survived some traumatic pH issues, but she is on track now. I vaped a few small calyx clusters and I must say she has a very sensual high....I got in the shower after toking up and the hot water felt sublime. :D I was laughing in the shower because water never felt so good. ;)

b0b_b1tch1n 11-28-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlantManBee (Post 137275)
I have one finishing up now. It's been on 11/13 for 2 days shy of 15 weeks. It might finish any day now, most of the calyxes are swollen but there are still new white pistils forming.

She's had a rough life. I started her at 11/13 and was forced to move before she or her brother showed sex. She went to a friends house for 10 day and he managed to kill almost everything I gave him....15 c99 clones and some other odds and ends. He kept everything in a shower-stall....basically everything on the verge of floating. He started with an 18/6 schedule but freaked out at the dying plants and switched to 24/0. only 4 plants survived.

She also survived some traumatic pH issues, but she is on track now. I vaped a few small calyx clusters and I must say she has a very sensual high....I got in the shower after toking up and the hot water felt sublime. :D I was laughing in the shower because water never felt so good. ;)

try a jetted tub with the jets pointing ,,,,,,, erm thats prolly TMI

love your description of the high/effects

peace :cool:

Donald Mallard 11-29-2011 10:52 AM

hi morphote ,
well i had a little trouble with nevils haze to tell the truth ,,
i under estimated the amount of sativa , and planted too late in our winter season to get the best out of it ,
had an early plant , jst a little twig of a thing in comparison to the other gals ..

sooo with that in mind im gonna try again and hope i can crack it a bit better next time ,,
particularly i need to prevent the stretching due to hours extending ..


anyhows , thoughts on the toke ,,
well im real impressed ,
and whilst i have a lot of varieties to sample ,
it s one i reach for often ,
so i have a few pics to sort through , and no dried sample shots as yet ,,
hope i can get something worthy of shooting to includ e,
nice thread idea morphote ..

http://www.mrnice.nl/photos/data/500/DSC_0023.JPG

http://www.mrnice.nl/photos/data/500/DSC_00242.JPG

Piff Rhys Jones 01-15-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donald Mallard (Post 137374)
hi morphote ,
well i had a little trouble with nevils haze to tell the truth ,,
i under estimated the amount of sativa , and planted too late in our winter season to get the best out of it ,
had an early plant , jst a little twig of a thing in comparison to the other gals ..

sooo with that in mind im gonna try again and hope i can crack it a bit better next time ,,
particularly i need to prevent the stretching due to hours extending ..


anyhows , thoughts on the toke ,,
well im real impressed ,
and whilst i have a lot of varieties to sample ,
it s one i reach for often ,
so i have a few pics to sort through , and no dried sample shots as yet ,,
hope i can get something worthy of shooting to includ e,
nice thread idea morphote ..

http://www.mrnice.nl/photos/data/500/DSC_0023.JPG

http://www.mrnice.nl/photos/data/500/DSC_00242.JPG

Absolutely stunning mate. Lovely bud formation for outdoors.

Peace

raydiator 02-18-2013 03:52 AM

My Best Advise
 
http://www.mrnice.nl/photos/data/102...214_213235.jpg

Be prepared to Learn, unlearn, and re-learn :)


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