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Old 03-14-2018, 02:33 AM
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Dude, GW2 and GW3 are super sexy!
Absolutely outstanding show. I can't wait to see how you finish these. Great work man.


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Old 03-14-2018, 01:55 PM
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Thanks Jake! I appreciate that, and I'm digging this grow.

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Love those little leaf nugs. I always thought gw2 was the best, and I am not surprised. Nice sativa look, foxtailing, leaf nugs you can seed, doesn’t hermies from strange light cycles, good smell description... seems like a pretty obvious keeper to me
Yeah, I hope GW2 smokes as good as she looks, and she looks to be my first keeper. I also hope that GW2 and GW3 just swell massively over the next 6 weeks and give me good yields, because they're still pretty sparse. GW2 has thick branches in the colas which tells me she's gearing up to add mass. Even if they remain sparse I'll be happy if the smoke is as good as I've read.
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Old 03-14-2018, 04:12 PM
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Looking good there Mark. GW3 is lovely to see!

i also like the NHM you got! to bad they are a bit smaller than the GW but none the less i`m curious what they will become. I have good experiences with mango haze and wonder what NH brings to the mix.

google: "Noreaster" is a macro-scale cyclone. Ah learned someting today!
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Old 03-14-2018, 04:27 PM
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excellent documentation Marcus. I'm inspired by your grail widows. What do you mean by F40, F51 etc...?

Now to the deep stoner thoughts...

I am always intrigued when I see the buds forming directly on the leaf. I like to think that the plant is extra fertile and just can't contain its lust for buds and has to grow them everywhere. I see it as a positive trait.

I've seen conversations online about whether the male or female has the most influence on the progeny ala DJ Short's writings. I am undecided on the subject, but I do not rule out that one gender passes on certain traits. It's not unheard of in the botanical world for it to happen. When palm trees are hybridized, the progeny favors the mother in certain visible traits.... even after several generations. The 4 o'clock plant also passes on variegation via maternal inheritance. If one 4 o'clock plant has a variegated branch, the seeds from that branch will pass the trait.... on the same plant a normal green branch will not pas on the variegation. I believe it has something to do with cytoplasmic dna. Also think of Ligers and Tigons, the mother holds the key to the size of the offspring.

What I am getting at... I would be curious if the bud on leaf trait is passed on via maternal inheritance. One way to test would be to pollinate those leaf buds and grow out the offspring and compare to seeds grown from the normal buds.

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@Byorn, we've had three Noreasters in two weeks and there is 1 meter of snow on the ground in my yard! Early spring rarely happens in New England but technically it's still winter for another week. I have learned that there were two separate power outages while I was away, so GW3 is forgiven for throwing a few nanners.

@CannaFish, I appreciate your kind words. When I refer to F40, F50, etc. I'm referring the the number of days that have passed since I switched to 12/12 light cycle. Tonight I will pollinate that little leaf bud to see if I can get seed from it and test your hypothesis. Although I thought I read in RC Clarke's Marijuana Botany that leaf buds were sterile. I'll let you know what happens.
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You getting hit with snow next Tuesday mark?
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:38 PM
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Thanks Marcus Sparkus! I don't know about the sterility factor, but I would hope they are fertile. The pistils do seem much shorter comparatively to the others.
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@CannaFish, the pistils on the leaf bud also dried up and went brown before the rest of the plant. It was too late to pollinate the little leaf nug, so I harvested it instead. Preliminary smoke report next week.

@wwwwww, looks like another noreaster coming next week with a good chance for "plowable" snow again. Power here stayed on through the one earlier this week because the snow here was fluffy. It's the ice storms I worry most about. We had a big one in this area about 10 years ago and a friend was without power for 26 days. He was incredibly relieved when it finally came back.
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Marcus, great thread, those GW are looking excellent. I've been scheming to pop some of those next but tempted by the two NHM packs I've got as well. Excited to see how yours turn out along with a smoke report. Thanks for sharin' your progress.
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@hesh, thanks for the props! Here's a quick, preliminary smoke report for you, as I've sampled two of the plants so far. I dried the tiny buds from GW8, the plant that went full hermie on me at 6 weeks. The taste is nothing, as you can imagine, but the effect is potent, even at 6 weeks. After smoking it I immediately want to get up and do something. Provides a good bit of motivation and two tokes is plenty to get me buzzed. I have also smoked the tiny "leaf nug" that i picked from GW2 last week. It was enough for only two hits, which I took before I went to bed after a long day that involved lots of cross-country skiing, sex, eating and drinking. I was exhausted, but I could feel my heartbeat accelerate right after I toked the Grail Widow. Despite the long day, a full meal and two big-ass martinis, I no longer wanted to sleep so I stayed up and did some reading. The words "cerebral" and "clarity" bounced around in my brain as I tried to characterize the high. Not at all debilitating or stupefying. Real nice glow. I don't know how long the buzz lasted but I went to sleep about two hours later than I should have. Based on my limited, preliminary experience with seriously immature buds, it looks like the Grail Widow will live up to its reputation and hopefully give me what I've been looking for. I'm really psyched about these plants and looking forward to smoking some properly finished and cured bud.

OK, it's time for a full update at F58 (~ 8 weeks). Here's the executive summary.



GW2 at F58. She's still my favorite plant and the upper colas are slowly and steadily swelling. I still think she's going to go 14 weeks.
The smell starts with a sour camphor-astringent that fades to a floral incense. I found two small nanners which I attribute to two power outages over a two-day period that interrupted the light cycle. We have another Noreaster coming tomorrow with 6"-12" of wet heavy snow forecast here so there may be more power interruptions.



GW2 cola at F58. The pistils in the main colas are still white/creamy (except for that funny little patch of brick-colored pistils), although the pistils in the lower buds are reddish. Looks like the lower buds are more mature, so maybe I'll clip and dry one each week so I can see how the effect develops as the buds ripen.



GW3 at F58. Odor starts out as pungent sour haze, then lime, then floral. I think this one will go 12-13 weeks. This plant doesn't appear to be swelling as much as GW2, and I don't think it's going to yield a lot.



GW3 flower at F58. Gorgeous. Gotta love those stacked calyxes and foxtailed leaves in the colas. I call it a very porous cola, it's like a skeleton with the bones made of stacked calyxes and you can kinda see through it.



GW7 seed plant at F58. Odor starts out as something sour on top of peanut butter, then fades to a beautiful sweet incense. Man, I love how this plant looks to be a good yielder. Bud morphology definitely toward the widow side of the spectrum. The upper colas have white/cream pistils while the lower buds have more reddish pistils. Best guess is this is a 12-week plant, maybe more due to all the white pistils.



GW7c clone at F58.



GW7 cola at F58.



GW7c main cola at F58. This thing is enormous. Perilously close to one of the COBs but seems to be happy there.



NHM 2 at F58. Highly resinous runt of the litter with a beautiful odor of lime, pine and sweet haze. The NHM plants lack the acrid smell of the GW plants and I think will taste incredible. This one has leaves and even a few calyxes that are getting purple, probably due to low temps (59F) in the tent during lights off.



NHM 2 flower at F58. Dense, small buds, but very resinous and fantastic smell.


NHM3 at F58. Similar smell as NHM2 but more faint. Pretty good yielder for it's size, as the colas continue to swell. I did something this plant didn't like as a lot of the leaves are brown and crunchy. Could be the fact that this pot has reused coco.



NHM3 cola at F58. Lots of foxtailing going on.

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