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Old 09-05-2012, 01:05 PM
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Hello Everyone...

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Old 09-05-2012, 03:27 PM
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Hi Resin,

I'm curious, are these actually "hemp" plants you found, or naturalized cannabis? Just wondering what the goal is of your experiment. I too love to take adventures.

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Old 09-06-2012, 07:19 AM
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if you're smoking hemp of course you won't get red eye.

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Old 09-06-2012, 02:47 PM
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when you smoke for medicinal purposes you stop getting high... just like with all medicines. When you first take morphine you get high, but then your body adapts to it and you no longer get high.

If a drug doesn't get you high when you first take it, chances are it's shit... and you'll be better off looking for a more serious medication.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:40 PM
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In The 70's Ed Rosenthal And Mel Frank Released A Book That Mentioned The Grafting Techniques ( Used Today By Midnightfarmer ). It Differed In The Fact Two Plants Were Used ; Hemp And Hops.
I'm Going To Give The Book Another Read To See If It Mentions If Hops Had CBD In Them ( But The Two Plants Are defineatly Related ).
During WW2 Japanese Were Relocated To Factories In The Fraser Valley , Where Hemp Was Made For The War Effort.
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:06 AM
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Yahoo. Watching with Keen interest.

All the best resinbud.

Glad to see you are still on the forums here

CBD is indeed great medicine!
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:37 AM
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Resinbud you really are one for the books i stopped posting because of you and your mates and all i do now is pop in and read these days but when i saw this thread i just had to comment because this post is such a joke and as a result you are taking this site to a new low by just posting this project in here i mean wtf are you thinking wild hemp to breed with and then you wont to give it to the sic REALLY sorry your out of your mind you want to stop red eyes use VISINE.

You need to do your home work.

Indica....higher CBD than THC equals heavier, sleepy type of high. Yield is usually higher than Sativa, and shorter growing season. Better for indoor growing, because they don't get as tall.

Sativa....higher THC than CBD equals cerebral, soaring type of high, more energetic Yield is usually lower than Indica, but is very potent. eg: Thai Sativa grow taller and have a longer flowering period, so they are better suited for outdoors.

What you fail to grasp resinbud is THC is a very important component to medical cannabis and something that needs to be there and there are many other cannabinoids in cannabis there are 2 types of THC alone that i am aware off.

What chemicals are in marijuana and its byproducts?

General Reference (not clearly pro or con)
Oakley Ray, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Pharmacology at Vanderbilt University, and Charles Ksir, PhD, Professor of Psychology at the University of Wyoming, noted in their 2004 textbook Drugs, Society and Human Behavior:

"The chemistry of Cannabis is quite complex, and the isolation and extraction of the active ingredient are difficult even today. The active agent in Cannabis is unique among psychoactive plant materials in that it contains no nitrogen and thus is not an alkaloid. Because Cannabis lacks nitrogen, the 19th century chemists who had been so successful in isolating the active agents from other plants were unable to identify its active component.

There are over 400 chemicals in marijuana, but only 61 [80 as of July 9, 2009; see Editor's Note below] of them are unique to the Cannabis plant -- these are called cannabinoids. One of them, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), was isolated and synthesized in 1964 and is clearly the most pharmacologically active.
Take special note that the relationship of THC to Cannabis is probably more similar to the relationship of mescaline to peyote then of alcohol to beer, wine, or distilled spirits. Alcohol is the only behaviorally active agent in alcoholic beverages, but there might be several active agents in Cannabis."

What chemicals are in marijuana and its byproducts? - Medical Marijuana -

Medical Uses of Cannabis and THC

Medical Uses of Cannabis and THC

Hemp is bread for fiber not for medical use.

The THC levels in industrial hemp are so low that no one could get high from smoking it. Moreover, hemp contains a relatively high percentage of another cannabinoid, CBD, that actually blocks the marijuana high. Hemp, it turns out, is not only not marijuana; it could be called "antimarijuana."


Hemp is grown quite differently from marijuana. Moreover, it is harvested at a different time than marijuana. Finally, cross-pollination between hemp plants and marijuana plants would significantly reduce the potency of the marijuana plant.

Other medicinal components of marijuana

In addition to the cannabinoids, there are a number of other compounds in marijuana that have psychoactive or medicinal properties.

Terpenoids. The 100 or more terpene compounds in marijuana are what give it its characteristic smell. Many, such as beta-myrcene and limonene, are found in other plants and have been extensively studied. Beta-myrcene, for example, has potent pain relief and anti-inflammatory effects. As a class, the terpenoids have analgesic, anti-inflammatory, antimutagenic and antidepressant properties.

Flavonoids. About 20 flavonoids are found in marijuana, generally at low levels. These include apinenin, which has anti-anxiety and anti-inflammatory effects and may inhibit proliferation of breast cancer cells, quercetin, a potent antioxidant and antimutagenic and cannflavin, which inhibits inflammation and pain signals.

High THC and High CBD levels together will give you a very strong mental high while making your body feel relaxed and heavy.

High THC and Low CBD levels will give you a strong cerebral high while your body becomes more energetic.

Low THC and High CBD levels makes your body very relaxed and dulls your mind. Couch-lock anyone? You shouldn’t feel as “high” when compared to strains with higher THC levels.

So in short your wanting to screw the plant even more if you want to do it then do it right resinbud and that would involve you first putting the hemp into a trash bin then by you getting hold of some afghan or heavy indica line high in CBD then useing a line with high % of THC and then combining them breeding them untill you have a mix of THC and CBD your aiming for.

Ow hang on others are all ready doing that right now THE CBD crew to name just one group has been at it for years and even have strains avaluble that did not come from ditch weed lol.

Here is some interesting reading

Phytochemical and genetic analyses of ancient cannabis from Central Asia

he Yanghai Tombs near Turpan, Xinjiang-Uighur Autonomous Region, China have recently been excavated to reveal the 2700-year-old grave of a Caucasoid shaman whose accoutrements included a large cache of cannabis, superbly preserved by climatic and burial conditions. A multidisciplinary international team demonstrated through botanical examination, phytochemical investigation, and genetic deoxyribonucleic acid analysis by polymerase chain reaction that this material contained tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive component of cannabis, its oxidative degradation product, cannabinol, other metabolites, and its synthetic enzyme, tetrahydrocannabinolic acid synthase, as well as a novel genetic variant with two single nucleotide polymorphisms. The cannabis was presumably employed by this culture as a medicinal or psychoactive agent, or an aid to divination. To our knowledge, these investigations provide the oldest documentation of cannabis as a pharmacologically active agent, and contribute to the medical and archaeological record of this pre-Silk Road culture.

Phytochemical and genetic analyses of ancient cannabis from Central Asia

Dont forget the VISINE lol.
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:18 PM
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Does Marijuana Cause Cancer? THC as Therapy

In 1998, Cristina Sanchez of Complutense University in Madrid reported in a European biochemistry journal that THC—the famed psychoactive component in marijuana—“induces apoptosis [cell death] in C6 glioma cells,” which are a type of brain cancer.

Lead author of another study and Harvard University researcher Anju Preet says, “THC can have a potential therapeutic role.” His findings, presented in a 2007 American Association for Cancer Research in Los Angeles, showed that THC has a direct antitumoral effect.

Lead author of another study and Harvard University researcher Anju Preet says, “THC can have a potential therapeutic role.” His findings, presented in a 2007 American Association for Cancer Research in Los Angeles, showed that THC has a direct antitumoral effect.

THC’s First Human Trial

The first clinical trial studying THC’s antitumoral effect on humans was conducted by Manuel Guzman and his team of Spanish scientists. Guzman administered THC to nine patients who had not responded to traditional brain cancer therapies for the study. As published in a 2006 issue of the British Journal of Pharmacology, tumor cell proliferation reduced in response to THC administration through a catheter – showing the medical benefits of marijuana.

British Journal of Cancer - Abstract of article: A pilot clinical study of [Delta]9-tetrahydrocannabinol in patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme

Benefits of Medical Marijuana - Are they Being overlooked?

THC and the Lungs

Another Harvard study reports that THC slows lung cancer progress. Moreover, unlike chemotherapy which damages all cells—healthy or cancerous—THC specifically destroyed tumoral cells without harming healthy ones.

In another study published in the Journal of American Medical Association, spanning from 1985 to 2006, over 5,000 men and women smoked about one joint daily for seven years. Co-author Stefan Kertesz found that subjects, rather than having damaged lungs, showed increases in lung air flow rates. Surprising findings indeed.

Shocking: Positive Effects of Marijuana on Lungs

Cannabidiol and Breast Cancer

With backing from the National Institute of Health, Dr. Sean McAllister conducted a study and found that cannabidiol inhibited breast cancer cell proliferation, metastasis, and tumor growth.

McAllister researched cancer’s relationship to the ID-1 gene—a protein active during embryonic development but, in healthy subjects, turns and stays off. In the case of breast cancer patients, the gene turns back on, which causes malignant cells to metastasize. In the journal Molecular Cancer Therapeutics, McAllister wrote that cannabidiol switches off the gene’s expression.

McAllister found that cannabidiol can even work alongside standard chemotherapy treatments by performing synergistically with pharmaceuticals. This means that maximum, toxic doses don’t have to be administered.

Despite accusations that marijuana smoking can compromise the immune system, mountains of research indicate that the plant has more to offer than a high. More studies are undoubtedly in the works.

In this research, Manuel Guzman located in Madrid, Spain discovered that cannabinoids substantially inhibit the growth of tumors in a variety of lab animals. In the study he also found that not one of these tested animals endured any kind of side effects seen in many similar chemotherapy treatments.

If all of the research doesn’t appeal to you, then maybe the 2,500 total studied patients throughout these 37 controlled studies may. None of the patients reported any kind of adverse side effects from the use of THC and based medication – further adding to the benefits of medical marijuana and strengthening the positive connection between marijuana and cancer.

International Association for Cannabis as Medicine

THC understand it before you just ride it off is my advice and do not breed with hemp unless your planing on making rope.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:18 PM
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Good to see you back, hempy.

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But to dispel incorrect information about MNS using different plants or better plants coming from more original seed is just false...It may be smart to remind most of you who do not know that since the beginning of plant work for MNS and other companies all mother and father plants were always controlled and put into production by myself as Nevil lives on the other side of the world and Howard does not do the plants.
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:27 AM
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Very interesting experiment resinbud, I think a lot of us will be following it to see what you ultimately come up with. Kudo's on the mature direction in which you've taken the thread and it is nice to see the chain of the force continuum broken and channeled to more positive vibrations. You have set a high bar with this nautical direction resinbud, well done. I encourage others to take notice of the new top side of the leaf.

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