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Old 01-28-2013, 11:08 AM
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Default Drying plants directly in the pot, without cutting the stem?

One thing that I have always wondered regarding the initial drying of the plant, before curing... If growing in soil, is there any particular reason not to just let the soil dry out, turn off the lights in the growing room, and let the plants dry right where they are -- standing upwards in the pots? This may of course be impractical if there are several rotating grows in the same grow room, or if the plants are not finished at the same time for other reasons, or if the grow room should be directly used for the next grow, and so forth, but if we disregard such "external" reasons for avoiding this method and just consider the idea of letting a plant stand in the pot when it dries... is there anything wrong with doing so? Any reason not to do it?

Seems to me to be pretty convenient as you won't need to hang the plant at all or do anything in particular. The pot will serve a bit like a "tripod" (don't know the proper word in English) while it dries, and air flow will presumably be good around the plants, and afterwards you just cut, trim, and go directly onto the curing.

Any thoughts on this?

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Old 01-28-2013, 01:02 PM
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@nexus
First of all a disclaimer, I have no experience drying and curing, tonight I will probably chop my first grow in thirty years (my second actual attempt at growing).

That said I have read a bunch of stuff on various forums and I will share my opinion for what it is worth.
  • Everyone seems to agree that a slow dry is best.
  • Most people agree that drying the plant whole provides a nice slow dry
  • Drying the plant whole can be a problem when the plant is hung upside down because the large leaves can stick to the buds making trimming difficult, I have read that hanging the plant right side up helps with this situation.
  • I have read that drying a plant in the pot as you suggested will yield a good result.

There are a few caveats however
  • Likely it will take longer to dry maybe two or three weeks VS five - ten days
  • Depending on how dry the soil is and temps/humidity there could be a chance of rot or fungus.
  • Of course as you mentioned this ties up your growing space for a while.

So there you have it, advice from a newbie!
I only have three plants that I am harvesting perhaps I will try this with a couple of them, my plants haven't been watered in about two weeks. All the trichs are cloudy almost none are clear, a very small percentage are amber. I don't have enough experience to know better so it seems to me that it's time. Right now I am heating a room and that's not how I planned to spend my electricity $$ so I want to shut it down until spring.

I'll keep you posted on what I decide and what I did.

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Old 01-28-2013, 04:18 PM
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I am experimenting with this process right now. I have several fully seeded plants that I won't be smoking anyways so I thought it would be a safe way to test the drying portion of the program. I will smoke some of the de-seeded bud out of curiosity.

I took 5 plants and stuck them in the back corner of my shop 3 weeks ago. It took 10 days for the plants to deplete the moisture in the soil and start to wilt. That tells me I should have stopped watering several days before I removed them. Since then they have been drying very slowly, still not ready yet, but getting close. I think one more week.

No mold to be seen but won't know for sure till I trim and deseed.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:24 PM
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Smile it's a matter of time.

sure, you can do that for awhile - instead of girdling then waiting - however, after some time you will need to go ahead cut the plant off and hang it.

This has been done by several already, and there are some online videos of that process.

I generally wait until the plants start using less water than usual. that's a sign (to me) that the plant is nearing the end of its flowering cycle. then when the soil is dry (and the plant looks done) I harvest. getting it down correctly is a matter of experience.

certainly some people use a darkened room for the last 24 hours or so (i have seen online video claiming a week). I personally have never made it past about 2 & 1/2 days with the dark room thing. I didn't notice any real jump, but that was my experience and yours may be different.

So Here Is The Important Caveat: You Will Need to check for over-ripening.

that is also something that people who girdle plants also need to check for.

from what i have been told (and my experimentation has been limited) - girdling actually deprives the roots of nutrients more rapidly than the growing plant. So the root system will die before the above ground portion of the plant. That is supposed to be a method for getting the whole plant to mature at one time - instead of doing like good ol' steve tuck recommends and harvest slowly from the top down. more modern methods for bulk harvest involve chemicals, and some archaic methods use smoke.

either way If the whole plant is starving it May cause more (or less) problems.

The Best Way to Know for Sure is to test one. That way you can contribute. Plus it's always a good idea to take online advice with a grain of salt (even mine), and test things for yourself. regurgitating other peoples words without first hand experience is just plain Bad.

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Old 01-28-2013, 08:52 PM
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regurgitating other peoples words without first hand experience is just plain Bad.


Agreed, I hope I didn't steer anyone in the wrong direction.
FWIW I will be trying this myself and post my findings

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Old 01-28-2013, 10:06 PM
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Thanks a lot for your replies! For those of you actively experimenting with this: I am looking forward to hear about your experiences later on.

I actually planned to do it this way last time I harvested, but in the end it turned out that the soil was too wet when I decided I wanted to start the drying, and turning lights off at that point would only make it take forever for the soil to dry out. Like onetokeover here pointed out: you need to stop watering at the right time for this to work well. Perhaps that is actually one of the strongest arguments against this method...

Still I like the idea of thinking like "how about NOT doing this or that" rather than "how about doing this or that" when growing stuff. Just leaving the plants in the pots is a bit along those lines...

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Old 01-29-2013, 10:12 AM
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This doesn't seem like a good idea at all to me
Essentially what you are doing is giving your plants an extemely poor final week of life leading to a slow painful death. The plant is going to do various things to try to stay alive such as converting sugars and going hermophrodite. The quality of the smoke is sure to be effected. I think you would be surprised at how long a plant will stay alive with no light and water.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:41 AM
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This doesn't seem like a good idea at all to me
Essentially what you are doing is giving your plants an extemely poor final week of life leading to a slow painful death. The plant is going to do various things to try to stay alive such as converting sugars and going hermophrodite. The quality of the smoke is sure to be effected. I think you would be surprised at how long a plant will stay alive with no light and water.
Hi! I think you are probably quite right. Still I am not 100% sure why a dry pot would be so different from cutting the stem? Couldn't you call the week after cutting the stem an extremely poor final week (or slightly less) of life as well? You mention the conversion of sugars.. does that involve the presence of the roots somehow? As I said, you're probably quite right and I am only missing something obvious.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:51 PM
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The difference is that when you cut the stem, the plant will die and the drying process will start
By leaving it in the pot, the plant remains alive, and instead of drying, it will deteriorate in health and wilt.


If you are interested in slowing down your drying process I would stick to the tried and true methods. Water your plant thouroughly the day before you harvest. Hang Dry for a couple days. Then switch to something like a paper bag, cardboard box, ect. After a while of that move it to jars and cure.

Just my $.02
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:50 PM
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By leaving it in the pot, the plant remains alive, and instead of drying, it will deteriorate in health and wilt.
@midwest
Hmm, it seemed like a good idea at the time, but your comments seem perfectly logical. Last night I cut one plant at the base and hung it to dry, I left two others in pots. This was my experiment.

I think maybe I should cut them all down tonight

The whole point of the grow was to get some good smoke, not a science degree!

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