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Old 05-02-2009, 07:06 AM
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“Ooooh that smell, cant you smell that smell, Ooooh that smell, the smell of death that surrounds you.”- Lynyrd Skynyrd

Skunk #1 is perhaps the most famous and widely grown variety of cannabis in the world. Touted as a true breeding, homogeneous variety that underwent extensive selection to produce a quality yielding plant that grew in a semi predictable fashion, Skunk #1 is nothing short of a legend in its own right. Many varieties, including the UK Cheese Clone are said to have originated from Skunk #1, in this case a Sensi Seeds Skunk #1 variety is said to ultimately be the source responsible for the UK Cheese cut. There is little question that Skunk#1 has played a major role in the breeding of professional and amateur cannabis strains, literally, the world over. Said to have been the only variety Sacred Seeds would not offer a discount on in bulk, the Skunk #1’s breeding history dates as far back by some accounts as the mid to late 1960’s.

The pedigree of Skunk #1 according to Sam the skunk man is (Afghani x Colombian Gold) x Acapulco Gold. With the original male selection(s) used in the breeding process of Skunk #1 coming from a selection of 10,000 individual male specimens, from a total number of 20,000 plants from seed ultimately. In Sam’s own words, “I focused on branching, smells, potency, type of high, yield, flower to leaf ratio, as well as a few other things. I still have the best males.” According to Sam hundreds of males were ultimately selected and cloned, later to be tested against his best Skunk #1 female’s in an effort to determine the best male varieties for his specific breeding vision. The earliest versions of Skunk #1 Sam claims to have worked with for no less than 10 years prior to the lines arrival in the Netherlands. Along with Skunk #1, Sam also brought along Skunk #2, a variety he himself admits he worked very little with, but that it was very “Road Kill Skunk “like in fashion. Although Sam the Skunk Man takes complete credit for the breeding of Skunk #1, there is a school of thought designed around the notion that in fact the responsibility for breeding this world renowned variety should lay in the hands of quite a few individuals, rather than that of just one man.

Another version of events surrounding the famed Skunk #1 is that its original breeder was a man who went by the name of “Jingles” and its original unstable pedigree consisted of Colombian Gold x Afghani. It remained a selected variety in private hands for sometime before ultimately making its way around the general vicinity of the Bay area, California. Originally a small group of individuals from this area (known as Sacred Seeds) are said to have taken an interest in this variety and an effort was soon underway to stabilize the variety known as “skunk”. After some time, this organization of individuals is said to have grown in numbers, with even a handful of separate groups forming all with the same goal in mind ultimately. One is said to have been able to become a member only after being recommended by another member from within the “inner circle”, with obligations of working with earlier versions of the Skunk #1 mandatory for all growers. The Acapulco Gold was said to have been added to the original skunks’ pedigree in an effort to reduce the “leaf to calyx ratio” as well as bring down the flowering times of the Colombian Gold dominant genes. Interestingly enough, although Sam the skunk man denies there was ever any “collective” that participated in the breeding of Skunk #1, the two stories share similarities, not the least of which is the pedigree of Skunk #1 ((Afghani x Colombian Gold) x Acapulco Gold.) The famed Maple Leaf Indica offered by Sensi Seeds is said to have originated from a man known as Maple Leaf Wilson, who is also speculated to have been a member of the Sacred Seeds “collective."

By some accounts the Sacred Seeds “collective” was a serious enterprise, which would prove invaluable during the early 1980’s when the group was ultimately busted by Law Enforcement Officials and Sam the Skunk Man is said to have been arrested (a point of contention by Sam the Skunk Man), but only for a short while. Sacred Seeds is rumored to have retained counsel long before their operation was interrupted and the Skunk Man was out on bail within a few short hours. As legend now has it, Sam quickly put surveillance on the warehouse where they had been running their primary growing operation only to discover the police officers had left it virtually unattended with only crime scene tape used to secure the premises. Even more shocking, its alleged that a great deal of seed was simply tossed in a near by dumpster, along with a number of plants that are said to have been salvaged by members of Sacred Seeds who were quickly assembled to strip the area of all valuable equipment and evidence, some of which was later sold to fund the Skunk Mans defense. The fact the warehouse is said to have been stripped of a great deal, if not all of the evidence may have contributed to the Skunk Mans supposed sentence of less than a year, upon release Sam is said to have collected a great deal of the varieties salvaged from the dumpster and moved to Holland where he started Cultivators Choice seed company. Among the skunk varieties said to have been salvaged from the bin was Skunk 18.2 (Skunk #1 x Afghani bx-1), a variety developed by Sacred Seeds that was said to have been bred to be disease and pest resistant. At some point during the Sacred Seeds project to stabilize the Jingles “skunk”, a great deal of the Afghani varieties available at the time are said to have suffered from botrytis cinerea, otherwise known as grey mold (a disease that commonly strikes wine grapes in particular), this development is said to have initiated quite a search for Afghani Indica lines that were disease and pest resistant.

Sam is said to have taken Skunk 18.2 along with other Skunk #1 material from the dumpster to Holland, (sum 250,000 seeds according to Sam himself) with these strains being among the first of a wave of new varieties from the United States destined to change the landscape of the Dutch cannabis breeding scene forever. Cultivators Choice Seed folded within a few short years and the stock was ultimately sold to Neville Schoenmaker, the original “King of Cannabis” and father of Dutch Seed Banks. It’s alleged that Neville was working with the same Skunk #1 P1 mother plant as Sam the Skunk Man from Cultivators Choice, while using a separate male from that of Sam the Skunk Man. This particular version of events in summary, is suspect at best, but illustrates another side to the story of Skunk #1 and offers a glimpse into the oral traditions of marijuana cultivators, something that is all too often all we are left to work with when researching these varieties due to the illicit and illegal nature of marijuana cultivation. Somewhere between the time Sam introduced the Skunk #1 varieties to Holland and their ultimate acquisition by Neville, at The Seed Bank, something of a debate arose about the true Skunk #1’s identity, the “sweet Skunk” camp (which without a doubt includes Sam the Skunk Man) versus the “Road Kill Skunk” school of thought. According to Sam the Skunk Man, the original Skunk #1 released in 1976 was mostly all “Road Kill Skunk”, but the subsequent breeding of the variety was designed around an effort to sweeten the taste and aroma, with the more powerful, couch lock type of affect generally associated with the “Road Kill Skunk” bred out in favor of a more enjoyable and relaxing type of high, one that enables you to still function relatively well in the world without being completely comatose. In contrast, the “Road Kill Skunk” phenotype of Skunk # 1 is said to be so foul of an aroma and essence that paranoia of having your crop discovered can literally consume you both night and day. As in the case of the “Original Haze” (a variety Sam describes as Colombian x Mexican, with Thai and Afghani coming later in its development. Also said to contain the same Colombian used in the Skunk #1 by some accounts) Skunk #1’s ultimate formula may indeed depend on the vintage year in which the Skunk #1 variety in question was developed. According to Sam, “new females and new males were used each year to make the seeds for Skunk # 1 and while pretty homogeneous it would change dependent on the selection used to make the next generation of seeds.” Later in the history of Skunk #1’s storied path at Neville’s The Seed Bank, Skunk#1 is rumored to have underwent a change designed around making a new skunk variety, whether or not this is the case, I can personally vouch for the existence of a variety known as “New Skunk” that is said to have been worked by both Neville and Sam the Skunk Man. Sam has on more than one occasion denied ever working with Neville together in any kind of joint project, lending some credence to the notion a new skunk line was created. Coincidentally, this is said to have happened right around the late 1980’s, in the general time frame many a stoner recount their experiences with the elusive “Road Kill Skunk” variety.

Today, the sweeter version of Skunk #1 is known as “The Pure” and is offered by The Flying Dutchmen seed company in the Netherlands. An example of an Afghani skunk line can be found at Mr. Nice Seed bank as well. Known as “Shit”, this varieties lineage is described as “skunk x skunk, the origins of which coming out of Afghani dominant Indicas.” Which is an important piece of information for many out there; because Skunk is often times one of the most misused words in the Cannabis industry. Afghani lines are renowned for their odor, and it is not out of the question for many varieties containing Afghanica genetics to be referred too as “skunk” based on simple observation of the aroma’s alone. Regardless of the varieties(s) true connection to the cultivar known as “Skunk #1”. Other varieties from Mr. Nice Seeds that are said to date back to early work of Neville include the (Afghan x skunk) x (Afghan x Haze), with the Afghani Skunk father due for hybridization with both Neville’s Haze and Mango Haze in the very near future as well as a separate skunk line that may see re- introduction sometime in 2009. Along with Shit, Mr. Nice also offers several Skunk #1 hybrids including Master Kush x Skunk #1, G13(skunk #1) x Skunk #1 as well as Critical Mass(a heavy yielding (Afghani x Skunk) x Skunk), which is a reworked version of the renowned Big Bud variety from the Pacific North West of the United States.

Like with most good stories involved in the history of various cannabis strains, there exist quite a few versions to original event and the story will ultimately vary upon who is recounting the tale. It should be noted that according to Sam the Skunk Man, today most of the varieties currently offered on the market as Skunk #1 were not bred by himself, but are rather varieties bred by others from his lines. Despite what you may read on the internet, Sam also has stated he has not released genetics in more than a decade to anyone and can not personally vouch for the authenticity of anything you may acquire labeled as Skunk #1, although the original genetics are said to be safe and secure in Sam’s possession in both clone and seed form. Ultimately it would appear the Skunk Man is gearing up to release his own wave of seeds in the future and the only strains of Skunk he is willing to extend validity too are his own. What we do know for sure is that Skunk #1 is without a doubt one of the most successful strains of cannabis to surface of all time and in fact took first place at the first annual High Times Cannabis Cup in 1988. Literally found in gardens a crossed the globe, it’s become one of, if not the, most prolific varieties used in the hybridization of quality cannabis in the world today. Described by the Flying Dutchmen as a “bench mark in uniform, reliable performance” legendary varieties such as the Shiva Skunk (NL#5 x Skunk #1), G13, Early Girl and Haze just to name a few have all been entrusted in the care of Skunk #1 not just because of its supposed homogeneous state, but because of the enhancements that can be brought about through the hybridization of your favorite male or female variety to that of the storied line known as Skunk #1. For those looking for an Afghani dominant Skunk, which is sure to bring back memories of a time long sensed past, the “Shit” at Mr. Nice seeds (www.mrnice.nl) would be among the very first places one should investigate further into in order to find anything of the “foul smelling” side of the Skunk lines.

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Old 05-03-2009, 12:03 PM
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Some flash backs from the past:

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Old 05-03-2009, 08:40 PM
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Hi JessE,

Top effort once more!,

am learning/being entertained ect from your work all the time.

ps why did they make the CCup's into P cups these days?..i much prefer the look of those earlier 1's.was shanti and co's cabinets too chocablock or something,lol price of metal?
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:21 AM
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Sweet mate,!

Ive alot of reading to catch up on here, good man"

I used a skunk/1 male on a afghan - lavender kodiak skunk that smelt of strong lavender purfume when in full bloom, little did i know at the time that pollinating this with the skunk 1 would make me one plant in particular that stinks like a mother fucker,

The only thing i dont like about skunk/1 is that too sweet of a taste it has, i doubt il ever use it again because of this, this is just my prefernce of course,

Im super glad i did use the skunk/1 on my own project, especially after reading all this, i didnt realize the skunk/1 was responsible for being the rks brand, It shows me im on the right track though.
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Old 05-31-2009, 03:56 PM
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Great Skunk write up. Thx
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Really enjoyed the read. I am with you on the Sacred seeds story. I met a guy elsewhere who verified the mostly indica status of the RKS, and many other things you mentioned. Got a few beans from him that were inbred since '78 and are supposed to be the RKS. It will be a bit before I can get into them.
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Old 12-09-2009, 08:55 PM
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hi all
hey Jesse

here is some info I found online on SK1 breeding I found today , it describes a diff version than the one that Sam presents

Skunk #1

"It was originally a cross between 25% Afghani, 25% Mexican Acapulco Gold and 50% Colombian Gold. Inbred since 1978, now a stabilized homogeneous strain. Skunk#1 was the result of a communal breeding effort by a small clique of breeders who worked the coastal hills surrounding the Bay Area. The first "skunk" plant (C.Gold x AFG unstable) was not discovered by this group but by Jingles, who cut the unstable line but kept this one special plant for his personal garden. This was around '69 or so. The clone made its way round the club and soon this Bay Area group decided to adopt it as a project. With the C.Gold mom used by Jingles as well as the Haze Bros, they set about trying to create a stable version of Jingles "skunk". The result would be known as Skunk#1. Columbian Gold x Acapulco Gold/Afgani There are better people around here to tell you the exact details, not the least whom is Sam_Skunkman over @ TFD. Yes it's him.
My understanding of the SK#1 breeding group is that it started very small and grew as time went by. SkMan starting out as a Jr grower in the late 60's and rising to the level of chief breeder and seed-maker for the seed co. in the late 70's/early 80's. It was supposed to have been very difficult to join this group and a prospect would first have to be sponsored by a member of the inner circle then be required to breed out a certain number of versions of Sk#1 from both clones provided by the club as well as genetics they provided themselves. This way they assured quality control and widened the gene pool at the same time. The original unstable "model skunk"plant was a direct cross of C.Gold x Afg. But the Bay Area people soon found out how difficult it was going to be to cross a C.Gold to anything. So it was found that it was easier to cross these difficult plants to a plant that was already hybridized. Hence the Introduction of A.Gold into the mix. This also apparently added two other favorable traits. In addition to making crosses easier, high GCA has been stated by Clark as one of the goals of the breeders, the A.Gold also marginally reduced flower time but most important was its addition to calyx/leaf ratio. If you turn to P 248 of Mels Dlx you will find a pic of four Mexican colas. Notice the two shots on the bottom are taken against the background of Sandy W's barn. I'm almost 100% sure the plant on the lower right is A.Gold and about 90% that it's the primary A.Gold mom in Sk#1. Notice the foxtail style buds and hi C/L. Now imagine this crossed to an afgani, starting to get the picture? By the way most but not all of the Afganis were from MLW.

Most of the Sacred Seeds breeding groups suffered disasters of one sort or another in the early days and in the case of Sk#1 it was the dreaded botritis cinerea, grey mold. Introduced by some of the early afgani crosses it kicked of a massive afghan genetics hunt/torture test. And while the late great Maple Leaf Wilson provided most of the genes they scoured every nook and cranny for an Afgani ;0. Many non Skunk#1 members of the Sacred Seeds who were also working on their own projects got involved.
I already spoke about Sandy W's involvement and there were apparently others though the only one I am reasonably sure of was an East Bay biker/Vietnam Vet who went by the handle "Mendocino Joe", who as you can probably guess by his name he was supposed to have been one of the founders of the Trinity grow scene. Joe was working on a grape/pepper flavored mostly afgani hybrid not related to Sk#1, but he had a large collection of genetics and was a good grower and so he was included in the torture tests. The ultimate result of these tests was a special line called Skunk#18.2 (Sk#1 x Afg bx-1). It is a line that imparts incredible hardiness and pest/disease resistance on its offspring.
The Skunkman brought several kilos of these seeds with him along with his other stuff when he moved to Holland in '82 in the wake of his release from prison.As far as I know he has only given these seeds to Nevil, Shanti, and Wernhard from Positronics. (Ever wonder why Shiva Skunk {NL#5 x SK#1} is so resistant to spider mites?)

In the wake of the Sacred Seeds bust in '82, "Mendocino Joe" moved to the Vancouver islands and changing his handle to "Romulan" Joe bringing with him some early Sk#1s or derivatives, a line of Central Ithsmus lowland Thai that may have been purchased from the Haze Bros and of course his grape/pepper flavored Indica strain, Romulan. Soon to be a BC classic. It was these lines that Pr. Ziggy @ Federation seeds in BC was supposed to have purchased from old Joe shortly before his death, and are offered as Island Sweet Skunk, Golden Triangle Thai, and Romulan. Torture tests and "inoculations" were mostly done outdoors with special patches of extra clones in an isolated area, which were then deliberately infected. Diseased and pest riddled local plants would be transplanted into these special gardens and then the plants were tested to destruction while the growers watched and made note of the strongest individuals. Sacred Seeds was all about division of labor. It's one of the ways they accomplished so much in so little time and they used natural selection to work in their favor. Skunk#1 first went on sale in '78 or '79. As far as I know it was the only strain that Sacred Seeds didn't give a discount on orders over 1k seeds. Seeds were 2$ a piece and people bitched about prices even back then. Especially that no discount thing But like the Hazes (which could sellout a year ahead) SK#1 sold out every year. The seeds were sold as F1's made if I recall with a F ? filial plant back-crossed to one of the original parents. Due to the communal nature of the project,there were many parents as each breeder included his own variation, Skunk#1s bred from the same P1 stock but often getting to the goal a different way, for instance some variations used C.Gold on the male side. With tight control over the P1s the breeders could assure their stated goal of making true breeding stock but with the widest possible gene pool they could also be sure to achieve both high SCA and GCA. also stated goals of the project.
Now I can tell you from personal experience that exactly what constituted a "skunk" was a matter of just a little debate but they basically came down into camps which actually carried forward into the Dutch world. The "Sweet Skunk" camp, which including the SkMan, and the "Stinky Skunk" camp. In terms of modern Sk#1 the CC/TFD Skunkman bred "the Pure" is bred for more consistent plants and towards the SkMans ideal Sk#1. While the stinky side of the house would be best represented by the SeedBank/Mr Nice skunks which also have more variation in types like the earlier California skunks. I must state here that there is no right answer, its a matter of taste and a debate that's been going for on about 30 years. In '82 I came home one night and turned on the TV. Just as they went to commercial the news bimbo teased the story, "comin right up after this" police official say they got the source of the skunk. Yeah right I thought, we'd heard these claims before, always to be followed by shot of some deputies pulling three scraggly plants from some poor sucker's patch. This time it was different, this time they were standing in front of a warehouse.

Sacred Seeds was busted in '82. The Skunkman was arrested and the cops were in position of the groups main seed-making op. But this bunch was savvy and had prepaid bail-bonds/lawyers on retainer and so SkMan was out in a matter of hours. And so began one of the greatest capers in Sacred Seeds history.
An event I will call "the great root-ball rescue". Skunkman, out on bail and eager to find out the condition of his grow rooms stakes out the grow to make sure the cops aren't waiting there for him. After sitting for hours he finally gets over his paranoia and makes a cursory recon and can't believe what he finds, the cops in either there arrogance or ignorance have left the place secured with only police tape. checking the grow as well as the dumpster out back the found many plants cut well above the the first node and some that had been simply pulled from their containers and tossed whole. the dumpster was also full of seeds and it was obvious that the cops had broken many seed containers but because there were so many eventually just started throwing jars out whole. the cops had left all the stuff there until morning when they could properly catalog it, including all the grow equip. Skunkman sprang into action, called a number of the non-busted members of the club and the "great root-ball rescue" was under way. His friends showed up and they literally stripped the place of every thing useful. Lights were sold to pay legal fees, the root-balls, including the Haze mom SkMan has to this day were nursed back to health by the people who escaped prosecution and the police were left with a distinct lack of evidence. Causing some of the cases to collapse entirely and some, like SkMan to serve greatly reduced sentences. If they had gotten him on everything they wanted him for he'd still be there. Instead, He served less than a year and on his release he collected up his strains from his friends, including Sk#18.2 rescued from the dumpster and made his way to amsterdam were he founded Cultivators Choice seed co, named after the top award at the annual Sacred Seeds harvest fests held in Nor Cal from 67-83. A year later Skunkman's new friend acquire a second batch of Sacred Seeds Sk#1 seeds. When Cultivators Choice went out of biz a few year later Nevil bought most of their stock. While both worked from the same set of Sk#1 females each has there own males (breeders never give up a male) selected from the only two importations of authentic Sk#1 into Holland.
The Cultivators Choice variation is the one offered by TFD as "the Pure" The SeedBank version is @ Mr Nice, Shanti's Shit is his Sk#1/Afg variation with "Pure Shit" aka pure Sk#1 upcoming."


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For anyone interested on how a real life MNS Shit grow hop over to my Shit grow diary. http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthrea...7129#post37129 I'm growing 31 shits 12/12 from seed! I'm hoping for the roadkill myslef as I want to get some use out of my ozone generator. I'm currently vegging out a hybrid strain but after this week the room will belong to the Shits. My small veg room (7'Lx2'Wx10'H) is getting used as another small flower room while my other strain grows out.. I'm trying out one of those new 6" small sized carbon filters for the Shit room:

I read one review where the person said it worked great but I have my doubts just looking at the size of it. But I'm only going to end up with 15 or so females under a 400wHPS & 150wHPS, in that small of a space I can't imagine insane odor levels, but thats what the ozone generator is for. I have it mounted in another room where all my exhaust goes. I figure I'll use it in worse case or emergencies. I've got a huge 150 can filter scubber for my flower room so I'm not too worried. If the Shit passes my Q.C. test then it will be mothered and make it to this room one day. My flower room is (8'Lx4'Wx10'H) with 2000w of hortilux power. (yea i ended up goin for them)

I figure if the Shit I grow is anything compared to the Shit I smoked from a reputable source....I'll end up keeping the best females and just re-vegging them to make mothers.

One thing that I dont think anyone has been able to pin point is Shit's growth characteristics. Either there is alot of variation in the breed (which i highly doubt considering the source) or this breed is just very acclimatize to its growers preferences. I've seen Heath Robinson grow huge sativa like plants...and L33t grow normal sized one stalk plants. JKP also did an awesome job showing Shit's outdoor capabilities. Then I've seen very small SOG type plants grown by a grower on ICMAG.....the name escapes me but he did an awesome job that I'm trying to replicate. Nice one big nug that looks like it should be around an oz. dry.....The picture of this grow of Shit is the ATTACHED picture.

In the next pics here's what MNS members have been able to produce with this awesome strain
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#1 Heath Robinson's Shit
#2 L33t's Shit
#3 #2 L33t's end product with his Shit


I've read about the "chease" craze in europe, it hasnt made a hint of news in the states. Never really heard of it outside pot mags. But from my own expeirances and preferances I like the roadkill version much more, so I hope thats the shit I end up with. I'm so excited about this strain, TONS of vigor for plants that looked near death at 1-2 days old. One week later and they look like future champs. Its been a long time coming with this strain and have had nothing but the best of service with MNS.

Awesome post as always jesse.
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I have been gifted Medacino Joe's original skunk beans from a friend of his..and a few hybrids. These beans have been open pollinated and not bottlenecked since 1978. I am very lucky to be working with them. They came with a warning, Do not operate heavy machinery and watch out as they smell like Skunks locked up in a room in a pissing contest!
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You know nycKid that if you do the same of open pollination you could share those precious seeds

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