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Old 03-24-2018, 02:50 AM
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I plan to edit this as new information is given to us
this is something so simple it should have been done long ago,
but better late than never
lets try to get all the question marks filled in or correct any info that isnt accurate to the best of our collective knowledge.
some of the goals are to get the names of the various afghans, skunks, and/or other strains used in multiple varieties to have a better understanding of what is related and what is not.
many of the descriptions will be pasted out of the strains area, then we can correct things as they come up.

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Afghan Haze: f1 Afghan T x Haze C

Black Widow:? IBL south indian /brazilian

Critical Mass:? Afghan x Skunk #1(origins of Afghan/Mexican/Columbian)

Critical Skunk:? 75% skunk, 25% Afghan

Devil:? Afghan x Afghan/Skunk

Dreamtime:? a mixture of Skunk, NL, Afghan and Haze

Early Queen:? Early Californian blends with Mexican, Early Pearl x
Early Girl x Super Skunk

Early Skunk: (Early Pearl x Skunk)

Early Skunk Haze: (Early Pearl Skunk x Haze)

G13Skunk:? G13/Skunk#1 x Skunk#1

G13Widow:? G13/Skunk#1 x White Widow

La Niņa:? White Widow x Mullumbimby Madness#1

Mango Haze:? (NL5 x Haze C)#122 x (Skunk#1 x Haze C)

Mango x Widow:? Nl/Haze/Sk x Brazilian/Sth Indian

Master Kush x Skunk:? Hindu Kush x Hindu Kush= Master Kush x
Skunk#1(Afghan-Colombia-Mexican)

Medicine man:? Afghan x Brazilian sativa / South India

Neville's Haze:? Nl5/HazeA x HazeC

NL5 x Afghan:? 75% Afghan, 25% Skunk (where does skunk come in?)

NL5 x Haze:? 50% Afghan, 50% Haze

NL5 x Skunk:? 50% Afghan, 50 % Skunk

NORDLE:? 50% Afghan T, 50 % Skunk#1

Ortega:? Basically full Afghan (NL#1 x NL#5)(not a cross of nl1xnl5)

Shark shock:? Brazilian sativa / South India x Skunk # 1

Shit:? Skunk#1 (Dom. Afghan) x Skunk#1

Skunk Haze:? Skunk 50%, Haze 50%

Spice:? Hawaiian sativa x Hawaiian indica

Super Silver Haze:? 25% Skunk, 25% Northern lights, and 50% Haze
C5 x (Skunk x Haze C)

Walkabout:? a mixture of Thai, skunk, Mexican, New Guinea and
Haze (haze maybe not , mullumbimby madness maybe)

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Angel Heart: (Mango Haze x Afg. Skunk)

Angel's Breathe: (Mango Haze x Afg. Haze C)

ASH: (Afg Skunk x Afg Haze C)

Critical Haze: (Critical Mass x Afg. Haze)

Early Haze: (Early Queen x Afg. Haze)

G13Haze: IBL G13 x Haze C

Master Kaze: (Master Kush Skunk x Afg. Haze)

Neville's Haze Mango: (Neville's Haze x Mango)

Neville's Skunk: (Nev. Haze x Afg. Skunk)

NHS-National Health Service: (NL5/Haze x Skunk)

Pink Floyd: (CM x Hz (AC))

The Cure: (Af/Sk x Hz (AC))

The Doors: (NL5/Hz x Hz (AC))

The Stones: (MK/skxHz (AC))

U2: (EQxHz (AC))


NEW stuff and others:

Haze AC: (NL5 x Haze A)2 x (Skunk x Haze C)

Grail Widow:

Widow x AC:

G13* x Widow

New Skunk:

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Old 03-24-2018, 02:55 AM
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come on guys, lots of S's, T's, A's, and C's to fill in next to names.
i took the liberty of listing shantis mullumbimby madness as #1, because its the first one many of us know about from a commercial seed supplier, and so it does not get confused with nevils work with a strain by the same name, and in case there are different MM plants in use in various strains now or in the future.
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:02 PM
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I thought its time to get some discussion going about old information, new information, sorting through this pile of mess to find the truth.
we may not be far off, maybe its just some little things that are no big deal to some.

but you cant build a strong foundation on top of a bunch of errors and mistakes.

whats on your minds?
I think it is
5HzC1xSkHzA1=SSH and
5HzC122XSkHzA1=Mango Haze

SkHzA1 being a new SkHz father that Shanti find (probably on the beginning of the Mango Haze development).
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:46 PM
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G `day Jacky

My 2 cents .

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I plan to edit this as new information is given to us
this is something so simple it should have been done long ago,
but better late than never
lets try to get all the question marks filled in or correct any info that isnt accurate to the best of our collective knowledge.
some of the goals are to get the names of the various afghans, skunks, and/or other strains used in multiple varieties to have a better understanding of what is related and what is not.
many of the descriptions will be pasted out of the strains area, then we can correct things as they come up.

The Naturals


Afghan Haze: f1 Afghan x Haze C

Black Widow:? IBL south indian /brazilian Back crossed not the cup winner

Critical Mass:? Afghan x Skunk #1(origins of Afghan/Mexican/Columbian)

Critical Skunk:? 75% skunk, 25% Afghan

Devil:? Afghan x Afghan/Skunk

Dreamtime:? a mixture of Skunk, NL, Afghan and Haze

Early Queen:? Early Californian blends with Mexican, Early Pearl x
Early Girl x Super Skunk Back crossed to SK

Early Skunk: (Early Pearl x Skunk)

Early Skunk Haze: (Early Pearl Skunk x Haze)

G13Skunk:? G13/Skunk#1 x Skunk#1 Back crossed to SK

G13Widow:? G13/Skunk#1 x White Widow Back crossed to Sk

La Niņa:? White Widow x Mullumbimby Madness#1

Mango Haze:? (NL5 x Haze C)#122 x (Skunk#1 x Haze C)

Mango x Widow:? Nl/Haze/Sk x Brazilian/Sth Indian

Master Kush x Skunk:? Hindu Kush x Hindu Kush= Master Kush x
Skunk#1(Afghan-Colombia-Mexican) Skunk back cross .

Medicine man:? Afghan x Brazilian sativa / South India New version not the same after 2010

Neville's Haze:? Nl5/HazeA x HazeC Nevil only wanted seeds he made for breeding purposes . Cast doubt on filial generation .

NL5 x Afghan:? 75% Afghan, 25% Skunk (where does skunk come in?)

NL5 x Haze:? 50% Afghan, 50% Haze remake , not original

NL5 x Skunk:? 50% Afghan, 50 % Skunk

NORDLE:? 50% Afghan, 50 % Skunk#1

Ortega:? Basically full Afghan (NL#1 x NL#5)(not a cross of nl1xnl5)

Shark shock:? Brazilian sativa / South India x Skunk # 1

Shit:? Skunk#1 (Dom. Afghan) x Skunk#1 lotsa herms

Skunk Haze:? Skunk 50%, Haze 50%

Spice:? Hawaiian sativa x Hawaiian indica

Super Silver Haze:? 25% Skunk, 25% Northern lights, and 50% Haze
C5 x (Skunk x Haze C)
Walkabout:? a mixture of Thai, skunk, Mexican, New Guinea and
Haze (haze maybe not , mullumbimby madness maybe) Early Queen / Skunk crossed sativa land races

EXCLUSIVE LIMITED EDITIONS

Angel Heart: (Mango Haze x Afg. Skunk)

Angel's Breathe: (Mango Haze x Afg. Haze C)

ASH: (Afg Skunk x Afg Haze C)

Critical Haze: (Critical Mass x Afg. Haze)

Early Haze: (Early Queen x Afg. Haze)

G13Haze: IBL G13 x Haze C

Master Kaze: (Master Kush Skunk x Afg. Haze)

Neville's Haze Mango: (Neville's Haze x Mango)

Neville's Skunk: (Nev. Haze x Afg. Skunk)

NHS-National Health Service: (NL5/Haze x Skunk)

Pink Floyd: (CM x Hz (AC))

The Cure: (Af/Sk x Hz (AC))

The Doors: (NL5/Hz x Hz (AC))

The Stones: (MK/skxHz (AC))

U2: (EQxHz (AC))


NEW stuff and others:

Haze AC: (NL5 x Haze A)2 x (Skunk x Haze C)

Grail Widow:

Widow x AC:

G13* x Widow
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I think the NL5 x Afghan is actually NL5 x Afg/Sk male.
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Old 03-25-2018, 03:09 AM
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I think it is
5HzC1xSkHzA1=SSH and
5HzC122XSkHzA1=Mango Haze

SkHzA1 being a new SkHz father that Shanti find (probably on the beginning of the Mango Haze development).
are you joking about this, or did you see this somewhere?

SSH has always been about doubling up on haze C, mango haze as well as they share the same father and the mothers are sisters.
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i m waiting for the new g13 widow
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Old 03-25-2018, 02:58 PM
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are you joking about this, or did you see this somewhere?

SSH has always been about doubling up on haze C, mango haze as well as they share the same father and the mothers are sisters.
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ASH and Angels Breathe is made with the Afghan Haze C male side....hope that curbs all the interest...but SSH and Mango Haze are pedigree breeds incorporating both sides of Haze A and Haze C combinations....in their breeding.

All the best Sb
Well it is either that or a SkHzAC1?
There is other way of incorporating HzA in the SSH?
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I think MH ssh has Hza to some extent but not through n5hza or skhza or skhzac but through the breeding of haze alone by nevil that produced the hza hzc males
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I think the grail widow is shantis widow male x "the Grail"nevilles haze pheno
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