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Old 08-16-2011, 08:52 PM
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Default NL5 x Haze - Flo Gro - 600w - Metrop

Seeds - 5 x "Northern Lights #5 x Haze Feminised" (4 going directly in the hydro and 1 mother in coco)

My plan is to germinate in shot glasses and then transfer to small coco pot under a 60w led.

Once on 3rd or 4th node I will be then moving them into clay pebbles in the tent under a 400w for approx 4-5 weeks

Once initial stretching period is over I will then swap out the 400w lamp for a 600w

Light schedule will be 18/6 for the first 8 days and then I will be switching to 12/12

Metrop Grow schedule for hydro gives no mention of ppm or ec readings and only shows the required amount of fert to mix with the water (see schedule below). Tap water here is around 400ppm and when I mix in the nutes at recommended levels my ppm is 1800. Will start the plants of on 1/4 strength nutes.

As my grow space is 1.2m x 1.2m x 2m I am going to be topping the plant on there 3rd or 4th node.

Regarding the flo gro 500's can somebody reccomend how I should set my watering timer? The man who sold me the system told me to run the pumps for 15 minutes every two hours..

4 x Nutriculture Flo Gro FG 500 Systems

1 x Sunmaster 400w Dual Spectrum for initial streching period

1 x Sunmaster 600w Dual Spectrum Lamp for final flowering period

1 x 120cmx120cmx200cm Grow Tent

1 x 400w for mother plant

1 x 80cmx80cmx180cm tent for mother plant

60w LED (for seedlings) + Incubator

Metrop MR1 + Metrop Amino Root for Veg

Metrop MR2 + Metrop Amino Bloom for Flower

Metrop Calgreen for the full duration of the grow

Red Rock Hydro Balls

60w LED(for seedlings)

Ruck Extractor RK 100mm 230m3/h
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:56 PM
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Some piccies
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:59 PM
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Day 1

Today I received the seeds from Sensi Seeds.
Gotta say that im well impressed with the new packaging
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:52 AM
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That packaging is top notch.
As much as I like stuff like that (and I really do) I would rather have more seeds in a hand sealed drinking straw from Shanti that fancy packaging.

What does Sensi say the genetics are in those seeds? Is it an old IBL with original NL5 and Haze A or is it a new re-make?

If it is an IBL, I think we will all be watching closely to see how they did on the selection . . .

I hate to say it, but with tap water at 400 PPM, I would seriously be considering an RO water filter system. You have already spent close to a thousand dollars on gear and are about to spend hundreds on power to grow those seeds. An extra hundred or so for an RO filter that will keep the plants healthy is a smart move.

Those nutrient PPM levels are very high for anything but a big plant in full swing.
If their instructions have you running one PPM level for the entire life of the plant (and that level is 1400) I would be a bit worried. GH seedling ppm levels are like 330, just sayin.

As far as timer settings for the pump, I have never seen one of those systems before.
I assume it is a top feed recirculating system with a "drip" ring using hydroton ("red rock hydro balls") as the media.
Hydroton drains like crazy and doesn't retain much, so there is no worries about over watering. You COULD run that system non-stop (see "hot nutes" below.)
The coco you are sprouting in on the other hand may start to break apart and make its way back into your res and give your pump trouble. Recommend rockwool instead (be careful not to overwater your seedlings in it.)
If you are committed to coco, make sure you have a good filter on the pump intake (filter bags are cheap and work well.)
The coco is also organic which is less desirable to me as a guy who prefers a steril res.
Back to pump timing, 5, 10, 15, whatever. Your plants are going to wilt when the hydroton runs dry and that will tell you what your interval is. It will change with the lifecycle of the plant as it drinks more.

Hot Nutes:
Running it just enough to wet your medium is valuable because the res gets warmer if you run it all the time, and you want to keep your nutes at 68 F to prevent nasty stuff from growing in there and causing root rot. Hot nutes=bad.
You may also want to run H2O2 in there to keep the nasties at bay (I run 3 ML per gallon of 29% H2O2 in my nutes.) Get the strongest you can find. Local hydro shops should have some for you.

If you nutes start getting hot (70+ degrees) you are heading for trouble.

Post an update skunk. We are all here to help ;-)
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Old 08-17-2011, 06:20 AM
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Very clean setup. Pulling up a chair...
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:13 AM
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hello,j'utilises un flo-gro.
-pour la journee je tournes en continu pour les pompes,soit 24h/24h.toujour pour les billes d'argiles en continu.
-pour la nuit je tournes 15min/on , 15min/off.
and pour finir je changes le bac de reserves par une reserve de 60 litres.sinon tu vas devoir rajoutter de l'eau tout les jours.
quand tous trahirons,nous resterons fideles!!

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Old 08-17-2011, 08:19 AM
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Thanks for the tips guys,,,

Last night I put the seeds into 5 shot glasses of water to saturate for 24hrs.

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Old 08-17-2011, 10:57 AM
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Just a cuple of hours later -

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Old 08-17-2011, 07:25 PM
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lookin good, hope you find a winner, I have bought three packs over the years of n5xhaze from sensi and the first pack in 91 was the best. When you find a keeper, the n5zxhaze will treat you well. thanks for the show
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:06 PM
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Cheers Jake,

as a newbie im not sure what I should be looking for in my winner.. Any advice would be appreciated

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