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Old 06-12-2019, 02:54 AM
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Hello,

So to cut a long story short, ever since my first indoor grow 11 years ago now, I've wanted to breed my own cannabis and it took a battle with cancer to convince me I can't wait for legal change before I do it.

Cannabis is and will probably remain illegal for some time in my country, even with the up coming referendum in 2020, I have my doubts it will pass and so do recent polls taken with 52% of people saying they want cannabis to remain illegal.

So as a haze lover I got on Google in search of good haze strains for breeding I came across the Neville story, Shanti story and the forming of MNS etc.

Being a perfectionist I keep digging and digging for information, I want to know I'm not going to be wasting time, money and putting myself at risk for something that doesn't exist anymore.

What Haze parents even exist anymore ?

Do you have any proof of it ?

Is the pack of NH in my freezer really even NH ?

Has anyone grown NH or anything that's suppose to have the haze parents in its genetics from recent seed Stock ?

I'm a little concerned I'm going to be "chasing the dragon
" , it's a huge risk importing seeds, if I'm going to be working with MNS genetics ill probably want many many more packs and id like to know the risk isn't for something I'm never going to find.

Feel free to PM me if your afraid anything you have to say might cause a problem.

And for anyone interested, No I don't want to sell seeds or my weed or anything like that, I want to cross haze to local strains to make a haze thats got those resistances for outdoors, finishes in time and hopefully has something uniquely kiwi about it.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:25 AM
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Hello,

So to cut a long story short, ever since my first indoor grow 11 years ago now, I've wanted to breed my own cannabis and it took a battle with cancer to convince me I can't wait for legal change before I do it.

Cannabis is and will probably remain illegal for some time in my country, even with the up coming referendum in 2020, I have my doubts it will pass and so do recent polls taken with 52% of people saying they want cannabis to remain illegal.

So as a haze lover I got on Google in search of good haze strains for breeding I came across the Neville story, Shanti story and the forming of MNS etc.

Being a perfectionist I keep digging and digging for information, I want to know I'm not going to be wasting time, money and putting myself at risk for something that doesn't exist anymore.

What Haze parents even exist anymore ?

Do you have any proof of it ?

Is the pack of NH in my freezer really even NH ?

Has anyone grown NH or anything that's suppose to have the haze parents in its genetics from recent seed Stock ?

I'm a little concerned I'm going to be "chasing the dragon
" , it's a huge risk importing seeds, if I'm going to be working with MNS genetics ill probably want many many more packs and id like to know the risk isn't for something I'm never going to find.

Feel free to PM me if your afraid anything you have to say might cause a problem.

And for anyone interested, No I don't want to sell seeds or my weed or anything like that, I want to cross haze to local strains to make a haze thats got those resistances for outdoors, finishes in time and hopefully has something uniquely kiwi about it.
Yeah I believe this is the proof your looking for, that Mr Nice seeds still has the Haze Parents that give you proper Nevil's Haze confirmed by the great man himself
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This is what a good NH looks like. Well done L33t. I used to pick off calyxes with tweezers for my joints. Those were the days my friends.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:48 AM
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Get some grail widow.. but whatever you decide on, you wont be wasting money, lol... Shanti trumps with one simple quote of his, "try plant a seed and see if that proves who we are or not"..... Plants that come from the seeds here, are better...
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:20 AM
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Cheers for the feedback, I've got NH, The Doors and NHx Mango to grow.

Reading some negative posts about MNS put me off buying anything else, not growing at the moment so it's a good time to stock up just in case the police decide to knock at the door.

Not feeling so put off buying a few more packs now Grail widow is on my list now
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:42 AM
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MNS has great genetics for almost unbeatable prices, as @growstone said you won't be wasting your money, in a way you can't because of how cheap you can get some packs haha.

I've grown out some Dreamtime and Angel's Breath/Heart and I liked them all, still have a lot to try out NH, Doors and NH Mango sounds great for a first buy (if it is your first of course) you should find some real plants in those for sure!
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Old 06-12-2019, 12:04 PM
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It is my first order, not the best stealth I've seen but it made it.

Yer I've got an eye for a bargain, auctions are a dangerous place for me and I see they put up Black widow, NH, MM and NL5 x Haze there all on my list

How did you like the Angels Breath ?
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:15 PM
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where did you see anything bad written about mns?

i like to question everything and learn,
but i havent really seen anything bad from mns seeds.
in fact most has been better than average.

i have an angels breath mother. its a nice smoke.
just now seeing 9 mango haze females and 4 ssh females.

i think about 18 nevils haze seedlings are following along after that.
once i narrow down all those plants,
NH x mango will be next.
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:30 PM
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where did you see anything bad written about mns?

i like to question everything and learn,
but i havent really seen anything bad from mns seeds.
in fact most has been better than average.

i have an angels breath mother. its a nice smoke.
just now seeing 9 mango haze females and 4 ssh females.

i think about 18 nevils haze seedlings are following along after that.
once i narrow down all those plants,
NH x mango will be next.
Dont get me wrong, Im totally in the Shanti camp, but Arjan King of Mids, was talking shit about Shanti on Massive Creations IG page, the other day. Its the post with a pick of Howard on an OLD yellow pack of SSH.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:11 PM
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Grover Sativa's grow log of mango haze below is the 1st place that comes to mind, he goes as far to say he refuses free MNS seeds even.

https://www.mrnice.nl/forum/mango-ha...c-janik-2.html

There was another post on ICMag maybe, similar sort of things to what Grover was saying.

Few posts around the Internet saying MNS are prone to
hermaphrodite, some calms none of the haze parents are alive anymore.

Excuse my terrible memory, that's about as detailed as I remember.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:01 PM
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Possibly/Maybe idk, bi polar or some sort of depression...
Fake news, own seeds to sell, so don't come here otherwise you definitely won't go there ..
Herms, if your environment no good or you don't know what doing.. any plant will.. what they doing? Filling with seed or sterial? Lazy poor or new, which are you? Lol
Parent plants? Shantis parent plants make better seeds than all others, lol, how's that? Like skunkman talking about giving nevil shit haze cuts, yet nevil makes best haze, lol.. lots bullshit lots don't make difference more don't make sense...
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