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Old 08-02-2011, 02:44 AM
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:20 AM
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its gonna be awkward in 2 years time, when its predicted they will be thrown out of the euro. Then the nation wont have an official currency at all.
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its gonna be awkward in 2 years time, when its predicted they will be thrown out of the euro. Then the nation wont have an official currency at all.
Say that again! that is going to be interesting to see what happens maybe the will do an iceland and tell the banks and the government to get lost,Maybe they will return to true democracy where everyone votes on issues..
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:53 AM
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england just put a rescue package together for ireland. as usual we fucked them over, we borrowed at 3% and lent to them at 5%. But all these rescue packages could just as easily be called enslavement packages. All of the so called developed countries are having their GDP effectively eroded as they borrow more and more, and need to spend their GDP servicing the interest on these packages. Its not until 1 of 2 things happen that this process will be reversed. 1, the population stop buying goods from overseas and start buying goods produced in their own country so that the trade deficits will fall and give the countries the chance to start reducing the debt they are in. 2, hyper inflation devalues the currency making domestic goods so much cheaper than foreign imports that option 1 takes place and overseas buyers start to see the nations goods as being so cheap they start to buy lots of them, (increasing exports and creating jobs) (which in turn raises GDP).
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:34 PM
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Greece should be thrown out of the EU, the whole crisis there is the result of corruption. Place is so corrupt no-one bothered to pay their taxes for years, that's why they are in such trouble, if the Greeks paid their taxes it would never have happened. No way should other countries have to bail em out.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:43 PM
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How the hell did we cede power to these corrupt bankers in the first place? What happened to soveriegn countries that had the power to print their own money?

Im afraid there will soon be global electronic currency that no country will be exempt from and you can kiss your privacy goodbye.

Its obvious that any country that doesnt follow the global banking model will be invaded: Libya, Iran, Somalia..etc. Guess what the first thing they set up in these invaded countries is, A CENTRAL BANK.

FUCK DERIVATIVES!!

GMT, all the budget cuts in the world wouldnt even put a dent in the debt. We owe more money than even exists thus the cycle continues and we are put into even more slavery. The only cure is to get rid of the top handful of banks who have created this derivative system. They are destroying buying power all over the world with gradual devaluation of all currencies. Large banks like JP morgan chase are buying up huge amounts of silver and gold. I wonder why?

If you dont understand the stated goals of the new world order (or the old world order as nevil puts it) you will never fully comprehend what they are doing. They want dramatic population reduction and the ability to use new life extension technology on the select few who they want to save. To do so, they will crash economies, start wars and soft kill all of us regular folk. They want us living paycheck to paycheck when the economy finally implodes so that we will die of starvation. period.

The rest of the world should start following the great examples set forth by the educated people in Greece and Iceland. Stop paying taxes to bankers on an unpayable debt and give the power to create money back to their elected officials not some global mafia banker.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:28 PM
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lets face it !!! its all gonna go down the shitter no matter how many bail outs they have !!
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:35 PM
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Well bail outs are actually misnamed. The equivalent would be to offer a guy who can't pay his bills another credit card. That way they can borrow on the new card to pay the interest on the other debts, and all is well until they reach the limit on their latest card.

longhorn, the bits of paper that people refer to as money isnt money, they are iou notes from the banks thats all. The worlds real money is simply negatively charged electrons sitting on another mans silicon chip. To think of debts as pieces of paper or weights of gold is a very old fashioned view of what money is. Though I know its what people tend to think of when they think of money. The large banks are investing in commodities at the moment as the stock markets are representations of peoples belief in the future profits of listed companies. Given the way in which the average Joe is being (and is going to be) screwed, its quite possible that these profits wont be as large in the coming years as they were previously believed they could be. Therefore their stock market value will fall. Therefore, the banks would be daft to continue investing in the stocks market and need to find alternative places to invest.
The world is grossly overpopulated, the population does need to be reduced. I don't know of anyone who would argue against that. Though I doubt the NWO cares too much about that as it doesn't affect the guys who benefit from that agenda. I'm very well versed with the nwo, my career involved being trained to help implement it (though in a microscopic role). 2 ways to defeat your competitors, invade them, or break them financially. Most think of a competitor as as a foreign nation, but the truth is your competitor is your next door neighbour. As a nation, we have competitors that are other nations, but as individuals the competitors are our countrymen. So there are several layers to the nwo strategy. The 1980s was a dangerous period for these guys, the workforce was able to save up for a few years and buy their home outright without mortgages, clearly that's no good for these guys. People were retiring at 50, again that had to stop. Now if you are lucky, you will be able to sell your life to a bank for a mortgage and enslave yourself to an employer till you're 65 at which point you'll get a crappy pension that means you will prob have to sell your home to pay for your old age. Only a small percentage will be able to leave their kids a house bought and paid for in their will. This means that the work force is kept in place and the society in which they are rich becomes more stable. Its a huge topic that were starting to discuss now.
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Old 08-03-2011, 01:36 AM
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Most people in the uk would love nothing more than to leave the EU. The EU is nothing to do with the euro. The euro is a common currency that prevents countries from adjusting the value of their currency to benefit their economic situation. The E.U. is about allowing trade to exist between its members without any tax being added to the price of goods as it crosses borders. The E.U. was set up to aid exports. In theory the combination of the E.U. and being one of the countries to adopt the euro will benefit the poorest of members as when wages are at their lowest, manufacturers will move their base of operations there. Increasing the countries export figures and offsetting the nations import figures while increasing employment and therefore relieving the burden of social benefits and expanding the economy. In practice those whose economic situation is superior, tend to keep the high end investment industries (with high profits) for themselves and farm out the labour intensive low profit industries to the poorest nations.
The Uk is a member of the E.U. which allows us to export throughout europe without being tied to the euro currency. And given our economy's scale, the last thing any E.U. member wants to see is us pulling out of the E.U. never mind throwing us out.
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