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Wasnt trying to be racist, I have plenty of jewish friends. Was just stating that the banking industry especially the FED is run by Jews. We are talking about a small percentage of jews also. Primarily Ashkenazi jews of german descent. I am of the opinion that the truly elite are not even human so fuck racism.

There are numerous ties to the Rothschilds and the Windsor-sax-coburg-gotha clan. Heres one link that shows a few

tieshttp://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/03/windsor-rothschild-connection_16.html

"The Rothschild House, through their Warburg-Schiff connection, financed Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Empire, Edward Harriman (railroads) and Andrew Carnegie (steel)."

most of the families are puppets of them or in cahoots. If you dig deep enough, you will see how interconnected it really is and see whos at the top of the totem pole.
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Old 08-03-2011, 05:34 AM
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sorry Josh, not sure how shipping costs equals racism. Could you expand on that a little further please? And yes, might equals right is a nazi and a globalisation principle, it was also a roman principle, it is currently an african principle, its also regarded as status quo on the streets in some places. In some parts of america, you have a longer life expectancy sitting in jail on death row than you do being out and free on your local streets. Just because different groups of people hold a specific principle to be true, doesn't mean that everyone among them holds it to be true, or that the diff groups hold all the same views.
I think a separate thread would be in order to discuss the merits of eugenics, and I'm sure some will put forward objects to that idea. yes deliberately provocative as are many of my posts. At least they get people posting which in turn creates interest and traffic for the site.

Longhorn, ok, couple of things, I did intentionally belittle you when I made a reference to educating you, and I shouldn't have done that. For that I apologise, though the truth of the matter is, this is the field I used to work in, and therefore can offer a little insight into it that others life experience or education may not allow them to do. So while we may disagree on the best strategy etc, I do know what I state as true to be true, my opinions may be unpopular, my recommended strategies may lead to disaster, but the facts I state are facts.
When talking about intelligence, you're wrong to state that the Jewish community doesn't hold the greatest. Truth is the highest IQ average is held by the jewish community (those genetically jewish for want of a better term, converting doesnt raise the IQ). The lowest IQ average can be found in Texas where the average IQ is 90. (Globally the average is 100). (below 70 and you are officially mentally retarded and a german sheppard dog has an estimated IQ of 60). (no im not jewish). And none of those facts affect the ability of the smartest person on earth to be born in Texas, they are merely averages.
Yes when you say that its about spreading the western way of life, you are absolutely right. When you talk about africa, I disagree with you, but we are arguing opinions there. From my point of view, america and australia are british colonies, but they do ok for themselves, why cant africa be like them? But we'll go in circles discussing that.
When I was talking about more than 14 trillion, i wasn't talking exclusively about american dollars, but the global monetary supply. Perhaps we were talking at cross purposes there. However what ever someone or some nation owes, it/they has/have at one time held that money (less interest) in their hand (figuratively speaking).
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Old 08-03-2011, 05:58 AM
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Bernanke, Kohn, Warsh, Krozner, Mishkin, Axelrod, bernstein, emanuel, Ginsler, Tarullo, Bloom raskin, Diamond

FRB of Boston: Eric S. Rosengren - Jewish
FRB of New York: Timothy F. Geithner - Jewish
FRB of Philadelphia: Charles I. Plosser - Jewish
FRB of Richmond: Jeffrey M. Lacker - Jewish
FRB of St. Louis: James B. Bullard - Jewish
FRB of Minneapolis: Gary H. Stern - Jewish
FRB of Kansas City: Thomas M. Hoenig - Jewish
FRB of Dallas: Richard W. Fisher - Jewish
FRB of San Francisco: Janet L. Yellen - Jewish

Could spout off more but that would just be overkill. Atleast we can all admit that there is some overrepresentation going on.
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Jews arent a race last I checked. Wikipedia says east asians have the highest iq.

Race and intelligence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thought this was interesting about ashkenazi jews intelligence though.

Ashkenazi intelligence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IQ tests certainly arent the end all and be all of intelligence. Certainly a bush man in africa will score lower than an 8 year old european but id like to see the 8 year old survive in the bush.
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my info was gained in the 90s when studying psychology, (a brief detour from my chosen career path lol). Psychology: The Science of Mind and Behaviour: Amazon.co.uk: Richard D. Gross: Books thats the 4th edition of the book, when I was studying it was only on the 3rd edition.
Don't confuse knowledge with intelligence, they are completely different.
I looked at the post you linked, but I couldn't find any stats showing the jewish scores, so I'm not sure how it overturns my statements. And to a certain extent, while jews arent a race as such, they are a specific group who for thousands of years have been breeding among themselves, and therefore genetic diffs along with cultural diffs do make them a section of the global population that can be discussed as being separate from another group just as we can discuss africans or Texans (to a lesser extent). Clearly whats true for one individual in a group isnt true for all individuals of the group, however we can take an average of any group and compare averages. We could for instance compare a group who drink coke compared to a group who drink pepsi.
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Jewish "Control" of the Federal Reserve:
A Classic Anti-Semitic Myth


Introduction

For centuries, anti-Semitic propaganda has demonized the Jew as a conspiratorial, manipulative outsider, often with powers and designs of world domination. From the Middle Ages through the Holocaust, fabricated accusations against Jews as poisoners and corrupters have led to horrendous suffering for the Jewish people.

In more recent years, the anti-Semitic notion that "the Jews" dominate and command the U.S. Federal Reserve System and in effect control the world’s money has surfaced across the extremist spectrum. Contemporary economic anxieties and distrust of government have given new life to this timeworn myth.

The world of finance is an area of complexity, if not mystery, to most Americans, and confusions can easily be manipulated and suspicions aroused. The bigot’s rationale is often conveyed in inflated images of intricate, stealthy "conspiracies." For example, under the headline "The jews [sic] have a Plan," the Idaho-based Nazi-like group Aryan Nations has reported finding significance in the fact that the Federal Reserve System and the Anti-Defamation League were founded in the same year — 1913. Another "specialist" in anti-Semitic conspiracy fantasies, Minister Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam, recently expounded and embellished the same "historical" point.



"Money Power"

In 1962, Omni Publications, a distributor of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, reprinted an early attack on the Federal Reserve called The Truth About the Slump (1931), in which author A.N. Field asserted:

"The Money Power that rules the world today is centered in the hands of individuals of a particular race and creed." Field labeled the founding of America’s Federal Reserve as that point when "the United States was enslaved under this German-Jew engine of control."

In the 1950’s, anti-Semite Wickliffe Vennard published The Federal Reserve Corporation,alleging Jewish domination of the "Fed" while declaring along the way that Hitler, like Jesus, had come into power "to chase the money changers from the Temple." But the most widely cited expositor of conspiracy theories regarding Jews and the Federal Reserve is probably Eustace Mullins — a longtime anti-Semitic propagandist and a Holocaust denier who still actively peddles this propaganda. Mullins, whose book, The Federal Reserve Conspiracy, is widely promoted in the extremist netherworid, argues:

"The American people have assumed the burden of hundreds of billions of dollars of debt simply because we let a handful of enemy aliens take over our monetary system. The three most important architects of our present monetary system are ...Paul Warburg, the German Jew who wrote the Federal Reserve Act, Emmanuel Goldenweiser, the Russian Jew who supervised the details of Federal Reserve Board operations through its first thirty years, and Harry Dexter White, son of Lithuanian Jews, who set up the International Monetary Fund."



The "Rothschild" Connection

"Most of the owners of the largest banks in America," wrote the late Sheldon Emry, an early leader of the racist and anti-Semitic ‘Identity" church movement, "are of Eastern European ancestry and connected with the Rothschild banks."

In the literature of bigots, the name Rothschild is a trigger for the most explosive of anti-Semitic tremors, and it usually sets off a litany of other Jewish names. In his recent book Called to Serve, Col. James "Bo" Gritz, the 1992 Presidential candidate of the extremist Populist Party, charged that "eight Jewish families control the FED" (Federal Reserve System).

In 1983, the charge that Rothschild banks and other international banking concerns, mostly with Jewish names, controlled the Federal Reserve was published (probably from earlier sources) in the newsletter of a local Pennsylvania chapter of the National Association of Retired Federal Employees (NARFE) — not an extremist group. The article stated that the Federal Reserve System "is not a Federal entity but a private corporation owned in part by the following: Rothschild banks of London and Berlin, Lazard Brothers bank of Paris, Israel Moses Seif banks of Italy, Warburg bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam, Lehman Bros. bank of New York, Chase Manhattan bank of New York, Kuhn, Loeb bank of New York, Goldman Sachs bank of New York."

In fact the Federal Reserve Bank of New York —the largest and most significant of the Fed’s 12 banks — lists the banks in the Second Federal Reserve District that are members and stockholders in the New York Federal Reserve Bank. With the exception of the Chase Manhattan Bank, the institutions cited by the NARFE newsletter as allegedly owning and controlling the Federal Reserve system ("Rothschild ...Lazard Brothers ...Israel Moses Seif ...Warburg ...Lehman Brothers ...Kuhn, Loeb ...Goldman, Sachs") were not members of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.


About the Federal Reserve System

The Federal Reserve System is the central banking authority of the United States. It is a fiscal agency for the U.S. Government and custodian of the reserve accounts of commercial banks; it makes loans to the commercial banks; and is authorized to issue Federal Reserve notes — that is, the hand-to-hand currency with which we run our daily economic lives.

Those commercial banks which are members of the "Fed" are required by law to purchase stock in their district Federal Reserve banks in order to supply them with a capital resource. These banks do not have .any "control" over the Federal Reserve. Control is exercised only by a Board of Governors, each member of which is a public servant appointed to his or her position by the President of the United States and confirmed by the U.S. Senate.

The Federal Reserve System: Purposes and Functions; a book published by the Fed’s Board of Governors, states:

Each of the twelve Federal Reserve banks is a corporation organized and operated for public service. The Federal Reserve Banks differ essentially from privately managed banks in that profits are not’ the object of their operations, and their stockholders, which are the member banks of the Federal Reserve System, do not have the powers and privileges that customarily belong to stockholders of privately managed corporations.



The Nation of Islam: Echoing White Anti-Semites

"The Federal Reserve is owned by... the Jews. You go back to the Rothschilds, and you go back to a lot ofthe early Jews that are in that financial system."

This spurious allegation was among the many voiced by Khalid Muhammad of the Nation of Islam (NOI), in his infamous harangue at Kean College in New Jersey late in 1993. NOI leader Louis Farrakhan, in a March 19, 1995, speech, was more specific:

"The Rothschilds financed both sides of all the European wars. They always wanted to get their hands on the Central Bank of America. And they finally did. On Dec. 22, 1913, Congress passed into law the Federal Reserve Act.... [T]he international bankers took control of the money by taking control of the Central Bank of America, the Federal Reserve...."
Farrakhan’s words echo the conspiracy tracts advertised in extreme right publications such as The Spotlight of the anti-Semitic Liberty Lobby and those of the anti-Semitic and white -supremacist "Identity church" movement. Indeed, all of these varied hatemongers could have sat comfortably alongside one another in the audience at Howard University on February 23, 1994, when Malik Shabazz (a warm-up speaker for Khalid Muhammed) shouted sharp questions while more than a thousand persons responded in a manner reminiscent of the Nuremberg rallies:

"Who is it that controls the Federal Reserve?"
"Jews!"
"Who?"
"Jews!"



Conclusion

The charge that "Jews control the Federal Reserve" is a classic example of the hatemonger’s paranoid-style exploitation of legitimate concerns — in this case, the nation’s economy. Moreover, the wide appeal of this anti-Semitic conspiracy theory among all kinds of extremists strikingly demonstrates how the agendas of otherwise opposing hate groups meet on common ground: the scapegoating of Jews.

The Myth of Jewish Control of the Federal Reserve: Introduction

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I hate this accusation of anti-Semitism every time Israel's or the feds policies are discussed in less than glowing tones.

Its not a myth that practically all the board of directors of the fed are jewish.
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Though I am obviously tempted to come no where near this discussion I would just like to point out that the Jewish heritage of the majority of the people in charge of the FRB is insignificant as they are just people who likely share a number of other commonalities that could be high-lighted as an over-representative presence of that particular group, such as being male or people who like to play golf etc. but you for some reason see their presence as singularly ad over representation of Jewishness. Furthermore you must consider the historical context of the Jews place in American society having started mostly as poor immigrants (indisputable) having found themselves in a certain position in society with certain traditional values which translated to social/economic success. This is not universal status quo for jews if you consider the current socio-economic standing of moroccon Jews, Yemeni Jews, ethiopian Jews, Russian Jews, Tunisian Jews etc. which is why there is a very big problem and flaw in the logic that Jews, as a race, are inherently wealthy or more specifically well to do bankers who control the FED. Yes there are many jews involved in FRB but their religion (as in not race) is, believe it or not, totally irrelevant to their occupation and to suggest otherwise is, well, fucked up...
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I think it comes down to education.
In america, jews value education more then religion, so most are more educated then the average and less religious too.
I'm sure most of those dudes have the proper schooling to have that position.
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Back to my original point about gold.

It just so happened to skyrocket today and has risen by $150 the last month alone. The $ is dead along with every currency around except the original.
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