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JessE 04-14-2010 04:02 AM

The World According to Monsanto
 
Hi all,
Recently caught a great documentary on Monsanto on the tele and thought to share it with the community.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvGdd...eature=related

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OfO2...eature=related

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVIR5...eature=related

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkS7v...eature=related

Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh3yi...eature=related

Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4U3B...eature=related

Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_eHo...eature=related

Part 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIQau...eature=related

Part 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxLUY...eature=related

Part 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmxbN...eature=related

L33t 04-14-2010 09:21 AM

Nice documentary JessE

thanks for sharing the links

brock1 04-14-2010 12:36 PM

thanks for the links JessE finding it very interesting and useful at this minute in time. alot of gm crop are made with a bacteria called Agrobacterium. this bacteria can transfer gene cells from itself to other living things not just plant. its dose this in nature not just by scientists in labs by infecting a plant while it its self is infected with a gene. in the wild it would only be 1 plant in very rear cases and the gene would be diluted in no time through breeding with normal plant. in a lab it would be hundreds of plant infected with any given gene to breed the gene into future generations. the bacteria Agrobacterium has the ability to pass its genes on to the next generation of infected living thing it infected. it implants its genes then passes them on to the next generation that's produced through gene infection. the reason most gm scientists use Agrobacrterium is because it simply has a better sucses rate than other methods. but is far from the safest way to do it as its all most is a cancer in its self. after infecting a plant it causes growths all over the plant just like cancer in the wild even affecting the roots of plants ect. so if a nasty little bacteria like Agrobacterium can infect just about any living thing then pass its own gene along with others to the infected living things. ( i wont say plant because its not only plants it can affect but dose in more cases) then pass it on to the offspring of the infected. why would anyone in there right mind wont to eat something infected and risk being infected? let alone recommend people grow infected plant to sell on to others its inhumane. in the wild it can help plants and stuff. give it to the nutty professor and he will destroy man kind with his madness and greed. i like this forum for a number of reason. 1 is the lack of greed here and the need for research before saying something good because it dose something good without looking for what it dose bad first. ge i think could have a good future in plant development but the greed behind it and urgency to make money from it with out research make it bad. MR NICE SEEDS AND RESEACH FORUM. it was the research part that made the site stick out for me. then when i looked in and seen how nice people were i just had to join. so i would like to thank you Jesse for the research you do for the site. for both strains and breeding thanks a lot mate. i am still a bit of a computer retard now & need to work on punctuation maybe go do a course at college and learn more as i waisted my school days getting drunk and partying as it was more fun at the time:o. but getting there and in time to come hope i can post as much research as you do you a inspiration mate. more should follow your example:)

admini 04-16-2010 12:50 AM

thx jesse, nothing new but so sadly true!

I still prefer the good old "no panic - its organic!" style... ;)

JessE 05-10-2010 03:16 PM

Hi all,
Recently caught this segment on the front page of CNN, thought to share.

Quote:

Monsanto vs US government

The agricultural giant under investigation for potentially violating anti-trust law with its signature soybean seed, Roundup Ready 1.
http://money.cnn.com/video/fortune/2...n_bin&hpt=Sbin

JessE 05-24-2010 08:03 PM

Fox News Kills Monsanto Milk Story



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axU9n...s&feature=grec

JessE 05-24-2010 08:08 PM

Quote:

Monsanto will own all seed

Excerpt from Bad Seed: The Dangerous Truth About Our Food
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtJDZ...eature=related

Quote:

Patents by Monsanto


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah-Ze...eature=related

Mooner 05-27-2010 10:45 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) 4/1/2015
In an unprecedented move toward global harmony and solidarity, governments from around the world are scrambling to remove legal restrictions and barriers to the underground (and illegal) marijuana industry. The movement is speculated to be a reaction to the recent acquisition of patents for all genetic strains of Cannabis Sativa, Cannabis Indica, and Cannabis Ruderalis by the agriculture giant Monsanto. Whitehouse spokesman, Robert Glibb, today denied any connection saying "It's pure coincidence. Since the 60's, it has become painfully evident that Americans want to smoke their pot and have it too. The voice of America has been heard." Representatives for Monsanto could not be reached for comment.

JessE 05-28-2010 12:37 AM

A point which seems to be lost on a great deal of the cannabis community, if or when it becomes legalized the same issues the farmers are facing with Monsanto could very well play themselves out in our industry as well. This is one of many reasons why the research conducted here at MNS is so significant, because without questions being asked and origins analyzed the true pioneers and legends of our industry stand to lose out to opportunistic enterprises with anything but our beloved plants interest at heart.

Quote:

In 1998 Hortapharm sold its seed stock to a British start-up, GW Pharmaceuticals
http://www.counterpunch.org/gardner07142007.html


Quote:

In the annals of medical-marijuana history, it was a significant moment: In June 1998, British regulators granted GW Pharmaceuticals a license to cultivate and supply marijuana for research and pharmaceutical development. There was just one problem: Where in the world would Geoffrey Guy, GW's founder and chairman, find a legal source of pharmaceutical-grade marijuana seeds -- enough to grow "tons" of material? Someone in England's Home Office gave Guy a tip: A reclusive Dutch company called Hortapharm, founded by two Californian expatriates, might be able to help him out.
http://cannabis.net/cannabis-seed/index.html

Quote:

At any one time, more than 15,000 marijuana plants are growing under its 14-foot ceiling, with its banks of lights. Inside is a sea of green, comprised of some of the world's most potent strains of pot: Hindu Kush, White Widow, Skunk, Northern Lights. Outside of the Netherlands, GW is the only commercial organization in Europe licensed to cultivate cannabis on this scale.
http://uk420.com/boards/lofiversion/...ws/t20422.html

Quote:

As a result, the seeds that HortaPharm is producing are passed straight on to Britain to take their place in the soil at the ground-breaking facility set up this summer by Dr Geoffrey Guy in south-east England. "We hooked up with Dr Guy in January and right now all we are doing is providing the basic building blocks for his work," says Mr Watson. "We were rather surprised that it would happen in England first."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ca...s-1200871.html

Quote:

There is no question that GW plans to enforce its patents on Sativex, which is a precisely dosed medicine. Warns Guy: “To protect our extensive investment, we have sought to identify and patent certain inventions throughout the growing, extraction and manufacturing process. My comments to Mr. Lucas were made as a friendly and, hopefully, helpful gesture as I did not wish him to invest a great amount of effort into obtaining approval for a product as a prescription medicine only to find that he did not have the freedom to operate in the first place.”
http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articl...uana-activist/

Quote:

Speaking at the International Cannabinoid Research Society (ICRS) conference in Montpellier, Dr Geoffrey W Guy, Chairman of GW Pharmaceuticals, said that HortaPharm will provide GW with exclusive access to its entire range of cannabis varieties for the development of medicines. The worldwide rights acquired by GW for an undisclosed sum cover varieties grown to date with certain exceptions and all varieties to be bred in future.



In addition GW will fund HortaPharm's botanical research and HortaPharm scientists will assist in the UK Glasshouse propagation, cloning and cultivation programme.

Dr Guy, said: "There has been much speculation as to the exact role of the various chemical components of cannabis in treating patients with illnesses such as Multiple Sclerosis and AIDS wasting syndrome. In particular THC (the psychoactive constituent chemical) has received much attention. Historical medical reports and more recent work may point to the influence of cannabidiol (CBD) in epilepsy and stroke for example. We wish to explore the therapeutic benefits and the potential for reduction in unwanted effects that may be offered through administration of complete extracts containing various defined ratios of the principal cannabinoids."


Mr David Watson, Chief Executive of HortaPharm commented "HortaPharm leads the world in its understanding of cannabis botany and has built up over many years the most extensive 'Living Library' of Medicinal Cannabis varieties. As soon as Dr Guy's clinical research indicates the exact desired composition our scientists can breed and register new medicinal varieties".
http://production.investis.com/gwpha...-23/?version=1


Additional recommended reading:

The International Cannabis Sativa Society
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=4523

Corporate Take Over
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=4584


The Fertilizer of Economic Growth
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=2761

The Origins of Haze
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=1606

JessE 08-15-2010 08:00 PM

Nice find fxingbcn :)

kylebroflovski 08-16-2010 03:20 AM

Patenting nature.????????????????

Mother ShaBooBoo 08-20-2010 05:03 AM

Things would really get interesting if the producers of Satvex claim that seed sellers are selling there patterned genes and start sending out cease and desist orders. We can only thank god that Monsanto aren't in the cannabis business. :D

kylebroflovski 08-20-2010 06:52 PM

Really they are'nt.??? Not so sure of that. Common sense tells me that would be an area of MUCH interest to them. Most of the time big business is strategizing and positioning themselves to make us pay for something we provided to ourselves in the first place. Heh. Just my opinion.

ironeddie 08-25-2010 12:06 PM

mama said monsanto is the devil
 
I have watched alot of docu's regarding the very shady unethical actions of the company called monsanto. It is very sad to hear of farmers working for generations on their farms using their own seeds and strains they have themselves developed being torn apart and robbed and infected by monsantos GM food such as farmers in mexico who have been growing their own corn for many generations only to have it stolen away from them by this diseased abomination monsanto calls GM seed which actualy attacks their seed strains and implants its genetic disfunction into them at which point monsanto comes along and declares the farmer owes them money for using their seed merely because their mutated genes are present in them.. would kinda be like me running around with a can of spray paint painting on everything i wanted to own and saying its mine because it has my paint on it this is totaly absurd! the whole problem with this began when the laws regarding the patenting of living things became possible.. i would love to see shanti be able to hold patents on the work and strains he has worked so hard on for so long. but i fear eventualy his work will also be stolen from him by these or other money\power hungry corporations .. also i think once the genetic patents are in place for cannabis they will legalize it world wide after making it unable to produce viable seeds from the crop it's self so therin having complete control over all cannabis in short if you dont buy their seed you wont get any.. sorry for the extended post but this subject is very important to me and all of us whether you realize it or not!... Down with monsanto:eek:

Vegetarian Barbarian 08-27-2010 05:39 PM

I had recently received this email from a friend: I absolutely cant stand anything by this corporation, i like the documentaries. But whats really scary is the fact that Supreme Court Justices used to work for them.

>
> SWEET POISON
>
> In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick. She had stomach
spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking was a major
chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed; she was in so much
pain.
>
> By March 2002, she had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and
was on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not determine
what was wrong with her. She was in so much pain, and so sick, she just knew
she was dying. She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in
her oldest daughter's name, and made sure that her younger children were to
be taken care of.
>
> She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to Florida
(basically in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.
>
> On March 19, I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she
said they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS.
>
> I recalled an article a friend of mine e-mailed to me and I asked my
sister if she drank diet soda? She told me that she did. As a matter of
fact, she was getting ready to crack one open that moment.
>
> I told her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda!
>
>
> I e-mailed her the article my friend, a lawyer, had sent.
>
> My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told
me she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk! The muscle
spasms went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but she sure felt a lot
better. She told me she was going to her doctor with this article and would
call me when she got home.
>
> Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call
all of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of
any kind.
>
> In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet
soda...and literally dying a slow and miserable death.
>
> When she got to Florida March 22, all she had to take was one pill, and
that was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a
complete recovery. And she is walking! No wheelchair! This article saved
her life.
>
> If it says 'SUGAR FREE' on the label; DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!
>
> I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE
on 'ASPARTAME,' marketed as 'NutraSweet,' 'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.'
>
> In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United
States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic
lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this to
be rampant.
>
> I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.
>
> I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this
sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to
formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic
acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants. The
methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis and
systemic lupus. Many people were be being diagnosed in error. Although
multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, Methanol toxicity is!
>
> Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis,
especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers. The victim usually does
not
> know that the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its use;
irritating the lupus to such a degree that it may become a life-threatening
condition.
> We have seen patients with systemic lupus become asymptotic, once taken
off diet sodas.
>
> In cases of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, most of the symptoms
disappear. We've seen many cases where vision loss returned and hearing loss
improved markedly.
>
> This also applies to cases of trinities and firma.
>
> During a lecture, I said, 'If you are using ASPARTAME (NutraSweet, Equal,
Spoonful, etc) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting,
pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches,
tinnitus, joint pain, unexplainable depression, anxiety attacks, slurred
speech, blurred vision, or memory loss you probably have ASPARTAME
poisoning!'
>
> People were jumping up during the lecture saying, 'I have some of these
symptoms. Is it reversible?'
>
> Yes! Yes! Yes! STOP drinking diet sodas and be alert for Aspartame on food
labels! Many products are fortified with it! This is a serious problem.
> Dr. Espart (one of my speakers) remarked that so many people seem to be
symptomatic for MS and during his recent visit to a hospice, a nurse stated
that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been
diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence!
>
> Diet soda is NOT a diet product! It is a chemically altered, multiple
SODIUM (salt) and ASPARTAME containing product that actually makes you
crave carbohydrates. It is far more likely to make you GAIN weight!
>
> These products also contain formaldehyde, which stores in the fat
cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Formaldehyde is an absolute
toxin and is used primarily to preserve 'tissue specimens.' Many products we
use every day contain this chemical but we SHOULD NOT store it IN our body!
>
> Dr. H. J. Roberts stated in his lectures that once free of the 'diet
products' and with no significant increase in exercise; his patients lost an
average of 19 pounds over a trial period.
>
> Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics.
> We found that some physicians, who believed that they had a patient with
retinopathy, in fact, had symptoms caused by Aspartame.
> The Aspartame drives the blood sugar out of control. Thus diabetics may
suffer acute memory loss due to the fact that aspartic acid and
phenylalanine are NEUROTOXIC when taken without the other amino acids
necessary for a good balance.
>
> Treating diabetes is all about BALANCE. Especially with diabetics, the
Aspartame passes the blood/brain barrier and it then deteriorates the
neurons of the brain; causing various levels of brain damage, seizures,
depression, manic depression, panic attacks, uncontrollable anger and rage.
>
> Consumption of Aspartame causes these same symptoms in non-diabetics as
well.
>
> Documentation and observation also reveal that thousands of children
diagnosed with ADD and ADHD have had complete turn arounds in their behavior
when these chemicals have been removed from their diet. So called 'behavior
modification prescription drugs' (Ritalin and others) are no longer needed.
Truth be told, they were never NEEDED in the first place! Most of these
children were being 'poisoned' on a daily basis with the very foods that
were 'better for them than sugar.'
>
> It is also suspected that the Aspartame in thousands of pallets of diet
Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting in the Gulf War, may
be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War Syndrome.
>
> Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects, i.e. mental
retardation, if taken at the time of conception and during early pregnancy.
>
> Children are especially at risk for neurological disorders and should
NEVER be given artificial sweeteners. There are many different case
histories to relate of children suffering grand mal seizures and other
neurological disturbances talking about a plague of neurological diseases
directly caused by the use of this deadly poison.'
>
> Herein lies the problem:
>
> There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame was included 100
different products and strong objection was made concerning its use. Since
this initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, and still
nothing has been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets.

>
> Sadly, MONSANTO'S patent on Aspartame has EXPIRED!
>
> There are now over 5,000 products on the market that contain this deadly
chemical and there will be thousands more introduced. Everybody wants a
'piece of the Aspartame pie.' I assure you that MONSANTO, the creator of
Aspartame, knows how deadly it is.
>
> And isn't it ironic that MONSANTO funds, among others, the American
Diabetes Association, the American Dietetic Association and the Conference
of the American College of Physicians?
>
> This has been recently exposed in the New York Times.
>
> These [organizations] cannot criticize any additives or convey their link
to MONSANTO because they take money from the food industry and are required
to endorse their products.
>
> Senator Howard Metzenbaum wrote and presented a bill that would require
label warnings on products containing Aspartame, especially regarding
pregnant women, children and infants. The bill would also institute
independent studies on the known dangers and the problems existing in the
general population regarding seizures, changes in brain chemistry,
neurological changes and behavioral symptoms.
> The bill was killed.
>
> It is known that the powerful drug and chemical lobbies are responsible
for this, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting
and uninformed public. Well, you're Informed now!
>
> YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW!
> Please print this out and/or e-mail to your family and friends.
> They have a right to know too.
>
>
>

L33t 08-27-2010 06:04 PM

Hi Vegetarian Barbarian

I was aware of the dangers of aspartame..as had read years ago online that a guy that every time he drank diet coke if I m not mistaken (which has aspartame) his back would go all numb!..and so researched a bit on aspartame..

Anyway glad your friends found out the cause and all will be better from now on..
Thanks for spreading the message..there is so much ignorance.. People should read the labels and know what they putting in their body before consuming a product

Namaskar 08-27-2010 06:43 PM

There is more about diet soda's and that is that it will dehydrate you.It makes your body thirsty.Aspartame is still allowed by the EFSA, FDA and is considered safe with normal use, but what is normal.A lot of people incl children are drinking diet's the whole day with some nasty consequences on the long term.
Osteoporoses is one of them.Diet or normal coca cola contains a high amount of phosphoric acid which breaks down the calcium supply in your bones.For 1 glass of coke you'll need 10 glasses of water to bring your body pH in balance, otherwise your body will use the calcium in your body to bring it in balance.

Namaste :)

JessE 08-27-2010 09:41 PM

Serious business
 
Hi all,
Great contribution VB, in fact not long ago I was mentioning the potential problems with aspartame to my significant other who at the time was drinking diet coke and has subsequently switched. Namaskar has also touched upon something that is also quite interesting and worthy of great consideration. Nice job guys.

Below is something I noticed some time ago now, and thought it to be one hell of a coincidence. All things considered they are likely not the same person, but enough to make you stop and think for a second should you have followed the thread from the beginning until this point. Interesting that Monsanto and the FDA are so intricately connected, and at whose expense?

Quote:

The box was the reason for Sam Selezny's trip to Holland. He was here by invitation from two pioneers in the weed growing industry. Two companions: Michael Taylor and Wernard Bruining, the owner of the first coffeeshop in Amsterdam. Although they already grew some nederwiet, the quality of it was not particulairly special, the knowledge they possessed of growing wasn't extensive enough.

Like every American, he thought big. Just like Michael Taylor,also known as Michael Rich. They became companions, throwing themselves on the big scale growing of nederwiet.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showpost....&postcount=142


Quote:

Michael R. Taylor, the former Vice President for Public Policy at Monsanto has returned through Washington's revolving doors and will now advise FDA Commissioner Margaret A. Hamburg on food safety.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christ..._b_228792.html

Ronin 08-28-2010 01:49 PM

I used to keep Icebreakers in my mouth at all times. I have OCD and my mouth would dry out from the fibromyalgia meds they had me on so I started having them under my tongue at all times, even while I slept.

Well, where I kept it now has a growth, they think it is fucking mouth cancer from the aspartame . I go Monday to see how much of my fucking mouth they have to cut out. I just told my girl this morning and I wish I wouldn't of, she isn't taking it so well.

I am scared shitless.

I didn't want to put this out there as it will make finding who I am pretty easy if it goes public but I felt compelled to let yas know after reading this thread..

Fuck them motherfuckers.

genegenie 08-28-2010 02:16 PM

Shit, sorry to hear that Ronin, hope it works out for you mate,

Sounds corny but stay positive,definitly helps and yeah fuck them motherfuckers,
Peace, GG

JessE 08-28-2010 02:27 PM

Ronin,
That is some heavy stuff brother. I hope things work out for you my friend, and I honestly mean that. Thank you for your contributions, though Im sorry to see them come at this expense. :(
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 59200)
I used to keep Icebreakers in my mouth at all times. I have OCD and my mouth would dry out from the fibromyalgia meds they had me on so I started having them under my tongue at all times, even while I slept.

Well, where I kept it now has a growth, they think it is fucking mouth cancer from the aspartame . I go Monday to see how much of my fucking mouth they have to cut out. I just told my girl this morning and I wish I wouldn't of, she isn't taking it so well.

I am scared shitless.

I didn't want to put this out there as it will make finding who I am pretty easy if it goes public but I felt compelled to let yas know after reading this thread..

Fuck them motherfuckers.


Ronin 08-28-2010 03:50 PM

Thanks guys, it is a hard pill to swallow.

I hope it isn't cancer but it is growing and changing shape and a second lump has started to grow.

There is zero doubt in my mind that those mints caused this, I had one in that spot for a couple of years. I always bragged "at least they are sugar free"when people would comment on me always having them and buying 10 cases at a time (yay ocd!).

I will let yas know what they say after the biopsy and if they have to cut my face off.

R

edit - I have had skin cancer twice before ...

"#" 08-28-2010 04:20 PM

hello folks, Ronin.

Ronin thats heavy dude, hope all goes well on Monday.


good vibes and thoughts.:)



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MasterTrooper 08-29-2010 03:10 AM

Hi! ronin!
That heavy duty! I hope all goes well!
My thought is with you!

MasterTrooper 08-29-2010 03:53 AM

round up, orange agent, BT, coruption, control over FDA...
 
Hi JessE!
Good thread as always!

I see this time ago I always hate OGM in Canada and US food company do not even have to mention if they product contain OGM!

Monsanto do run after farmer to test they crop if the genetic is not from then!
They sue the farmer if they find genetic similarity!

let say they pass with a airplane full of OGM pollen from Monsanto and drop it over some country!
let say over a country that don't authorize OGM Plants!

I say this because there is country that did not authorize OGM and next year just like magic they have OGM genetic in there field and they need to declare that they are now accepting OGM

Take care every one!

JessE 08-29-2010 12:52 PM

Hi MT :)
You know what you're talking about has definitely occured already, and its a significant issue I have in fact spent some time myself thinking about. In the video's posted on the first page I believe, the maze issue in Mexico was touched upon and how this particular part of the world is renowned for its history of Maze production. A truly disgusting turn of events, one which could play itself out in the future in our own industry in some kind of similar manner. Being someone who loves the cannabis plant a great deal, I think its a gravely serious matter to be honest with you.

Already some ugly facts have surfaced within the cannabis industry that definitely make you stop and consider the future.

ironeddie 08-29-2010 03:49 PM

Another usefull tid bit of information on the monsanto topic as mentioned earlier in this thread in a post by "vegetarian the barbarian" people of high authority worked for the company did you know that Donald rumsfeld was at one point the CEO for monsanto? very disturbing when looked at in a larger context of things:(

Ronin 08-29-2010 04:35 PM

Thanks guys.

I go here in a couple of hours to find out my fate.


Nice avatar IE!

"run to the hills - run for your lives"


edit - thought today was monday. ha

ironeddie 08-31-2010 03:17 AM

sincerely wish you the best of luck Ronin hope all your worries are over with quick so you can go back to concentrating on what you love!

Ronin 08-31-2010 03:53 PM

Thanks IE!

I have to go to another specialist on the 9th to schedule the cutting. I am going to sue these monsters for making me go through this - the wait is doing my head in. I can't sleep, I sometimes cry when I think of my family having to go through this ... It isn't right to allow people to have to go through such things. I have almost died a couple of times now, once from getting stabbed in neck and another from illness that was fixed from a one time surgery - this is worse. I don't know what is going to happen and I feel fucking helpless. I hate not being in control.

I do have good news though - today I hand in my journals and if everything goes well i get my MMJ papers!! Where I live doesn't really give them out, only to a few very ill. I have to be there at 4 and they told me to be surprised if I was done by 7, well worth it I think.

R

kylebroflovski 08-31-2010 03:58 PM

Blessings
 
Good luck with the paperwork. Red tape blows! Positive energy your way Ronin. Stabbed in neck? You sound like a survivor to me. :)_~ KB

brock1 08-31-2010 06:54 PM

sorry to here your news Ronin i hope thing get better for you mate. hope they pay for the shit they caused you and your poor family. i dont think there's enough bad karma for these people. they know there killing people but they just dont care.:mad:

quinxstar 08-31-2010 10:36 PM

THX a lot for this links

i has be baned from a french forum because
i say somethings" feminized is like monsanto "

and guys who grow feminized are ass hole

"#" 08-31-2010 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quinxstar (Post 59991)
THX a lot for this links

i has be baned from a french forum because
i say somethings" feminized is like monsanto "

and guys who grow feminized are ass hole



PMSL!.


Nice one!.






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JessE 09-01-2010 12:55 PM

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GMO Crop Sabotage on the Rise: French citizens destroy trial vineyard

Posted on August 24, 2010 by Rady| Leave a comment
http://foodfreedom.files.wordpress.c...pg?w=493&h=277 GMO grapevines destroyed (AFP)

By Rady Ananda
Food Freedom Aug. 16, 2010
Early Sunday morning, French police stood helpless as sixty people, locked inside an open-air field of genetically modified grapevines, uprooted all the plants. In Spain last month, dozens of people destroyed two GMO fields. On the millennial cusp, Indian farmers burned Bt cotton in their Cremate Monsanto campaign. Ignored by multinational corporations and corrupt public policy makers, citizens act to protect the food supply and the planet.
The French vineyard is the same field attacked last year when the plants were only cut. But the security features installed after that incident kept authorities at bay while the group accomplished its mission on August 15th.
Speaking for the group, Olivier Florent told Le Figero that they condemned the use of public funds for open-field testing of GMOs “that we do not want.”
Pitching tents in the rain near France’s National Institute for Agronomic Research (INRA) site in Colmar the night before, the group waited until 5 AM before converging on the site and locking the gates behind them. They uprooted all 70 plants, then submitted to arrest.
This is the second attack on GMO crops to make international news this year. In July dozens of people destroyed two experimental corn crops in Spain. In an anonymous press release, they wrote, “This kind of direct action is the best way to respond to the fait accompli policy through which the Generalitat, the State and the biotech multinationals have been unilaterally imposing genetically modified organisms.”
In the late 1990s, Indian farmers burnt Bt cotton fields in their Cremate Monsanto campaign. Monsanto did not disclose to farmers that the GM seeds were experimental. “Despite the heavy use of chemical fertiliser, traces of which still can be observed in the field, the Bt plants grew miserably, less than half the size of the traditional cotton plants in the adjacent fields.”
After the Haiti earthquake this year, Monsanto offered 475 tons of hybrid corn and terminator vegetable seeds in partnership with USAID. In June, 10,000 Haitian farmers marched in protest of the “poison gift” which produces no viable seeds for future plantings and requires heavy chemical inputs. Haitian farm leader Chavannes Jean-Baptiste observed that the biotech plan makes farmers dependent on multinational corporations.
In the US, GMOs were secretly foisted on the public in the mid-1990s, and only now is the US Supreme Court addressing the scourge. In June, the high court upheld partial deregulation of GM alfalfa, which permits limited planting while the USDA prepares an Environmental Impact Statement. Natural and organic alfalfa supply is threatened by the very real potential of GM contamination. This would destroy the organic meat and dairy industry.
Last Friday, a federal court took a tougher position on GM sugar beets. Judge Jeffrey S. White revoked USDA approval of the GM beet, while allowing for its planting this year only.
Also this month, a British farmer exposed that milk and meat from cloned animals had secretly entered the food supply.

Public opposition to GM crops has grown in recent years as more evidence surfaces that DNA-altered crops: Meanwhile, President Obama has stacked his Administration with biotech insiders going so far as to appoint Islam Siddiqui as Agriculture Trade Negotiator. Siddiqui is a former pesticide lobbyist and vice president of CropLife America, a biotech and pesticide trade group that lobbies to weaken environmental laws.

The US is pushing hard at the world to accept GM foods. Recently, the American Farm Bureau Federation called for stronger sanctions against the European Union for its GM crop ban.
But as governments and trade agreements circumvent the will of the people, some take matters into their own hands. The rise in GMO crop destruction is a clear indication that the world’s people reject chemical and genetic pollution of the food supply and the environment.


http://coto2.wordpress.com/2010/08/2...rial-vineyard/

JessE 09-01-2010 01:15 PM

Many of the foods available today in the US could in fact be the product of GMO crops, however do not expect to see a label on any of them stating as such, because of the "Principle of Substantial Equivalence of GMO's." I believe this subject has been covered in the video's on the front page, and with a google search there have been studies stating harmful effects to internal organs from the consumption of some of these modified products.


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The Principle of Substantial Equivalence of GMOs

The principle of “Substantial Equivalence” features in a paragraph of the FDA regulations which are central to the controversy surrounding GMOs, as follows:
“In most cases the substances expected to become components of food as a result of genetic modification will the same as or substantially similar to substances commonly found in food such as proteins, fats and oils, and carbohydrates.”


In effect, this principle of substantial equivalence is not based on any scientific proof. It is just an abstract idea invented by the policy-makers in order to introduce GMOs into the food chain without the tests for toxicity which are normally required before any new food product can go on the market.

It’s also an idea with very significant consequences because it allows a law, added to the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act by Congress in 1958, to be bypassed. Called the “Food Additive Act” this required toxicological testing of food additives. But substances said to be “Generally Recognised as Safe” or GRAS, either because they were “used in food products before 1 January 1958” or because “scientific procedures” have proved that they in fact posed no problem to health, are excluded from the definition of “food additives” and so not subject to toxicity testing. These include additives like salt, pepper or sugar, and today, the addition of extra genes to a plant. This concept has been the subject of intense debate within the scientific community.

http://www.combat-monsanto.co.uk/spip.php?article317

La Buena Hierba 09-01-2010 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JessE (Post 50508)
Speaking at the International Cannabinoid Research Society (ICRS) conference in Montpellier, Dr Geoffrey W Guy, Chairman of GW Pharmaceuticals, said that HortaPharm will provide GW with exclusive access to its entire range of cannabis varieties for the development of medicines. The worldwide rights acquired by GW for an undisclosed sum cover varieties grown to date with certain exceptions and all varieties to be bred in future.



In addition GW will fund HortaPharm's botanical research and HortaPharm scientists will assist in the UK Glasshouse propagation, cloning and cultivation programme.

Dr Guy, said: "There has been much speculation as to the exact role of the various chemical components of cannabis in treating patients with illnesses such as Multiple Sclerosis and AIDS wasting syndrome. In particular THC (the psychoactive constituent chemical) has received much attention. Historical medical reports and more recent work may point to the influence of cannabidiol (CBD) in epilepsy and stroke for example. We wish to explore the therapeutic benefits and the potential for reduction in unwanted effects that may be offered through administration of complete extracts containing various defined ratios of the principal cannabinoids."


Mr David Watson, Chief Executive of HortaPharm commented "HortaPharm leads the world in its understanding of cannabis botany and has built up over many years the most extensive 'Living Library' of Medicinal Cannabis varieties. As soon as Dr Guy's clinical research indicates the exact desired composition our scientists can breed and register new medicinal varieties".
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http://production.investis.com/gwpha...-23/?version=1

Mr David Watson isnt this Sam ?
i think Wernard tolt me some time ago?
ore it looks like this dont rember good

JessE 12-15-2010 03:52 AM

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DNA patent ruling hinders Monsanto
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Lawyers debate a European court decision on patents involving genetic material.
Richard Van Noorden


A decision by the European Court of Justice on a DNA patent held by global seed company Monsanto has caused a stir in the biotechnology industry, with concerns that the ruling could limit the protection companies enjoy on their European patents. Nature explains more.
What is the judgment all about?
Since 1996, Monsanto has held a European patent on genes that give soya beans resistance to the company's Roundup herbicide — specifically the active ingredient glyphosate. But the firm has not managed to obtain a patent in Argentina, where soya-bean crops (known as Roundup Ready) expressing the glyphosate-resistance genes can be cultivated without a licensing agreement. Argentinian growers are exporting soya meal — harvested and processed from these crops — to Europe, especially the Netherlands.
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/1007...0.soyabean.jpg

A ruling on Monsanto's Roundup Ready soya could have wider repercussions for the biotechnology industry.

In an attempt to recoup payments it has not yet managed to get from Argentinian growers, Monsanto had sued importers such as Cefetra, based in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, to try to prevent this practice, claiming that the imported soya meal contained the DNA sequence that it had patent protection for in Europe.
The European Court of Justice — Europe's top court, based in Luxembourg — ruled on 6 July that Monsanto couldn't bar imports of the soya meal. It argued that citing the fact that the DNA in the soya meal was not performing the function for which Monsanto had gained patent protection in the first place.

Why does it matter?

The decision reflects a wider question about the scope and strength of DNA patents: how easy is it to infringe a European patent on genetic material? The court said that such a patent can be enforced only when the DNA is performing the function for which it was originally patented — known as purpose-bound protection.
The ruling is being viewed as the first test of the European Union's biotechnology directive, passed in 1998, which set down policy on what kind of genetic material was patentable, and on what protection that patent enjoyed. Lawyers disagree about the wider impact of the court ruling, but some feel that it will restrict the scope of European patents on DNA.

Is the decision a surprise?

Not really. Monsanto were hoping for a broad interpretation of the biotechnology directive, which says: "The protection conferred by a patent on a product containing or consisting of genetic information shall extend to all material ... in which the product in [sic] incorporated and in which the genetic information is contained and performs its function."
Patent lawyer Devanand Crease, who works at the London-based law partnership Keltie, says that most people would have interpreted this wording as narrowly as the European court has done. "Continental Europe, especially France, really favours purpose-bound limitations, whereas the UK has as yet resisted," he says.
Indeed, Monsanto had already withdrawn its complaint against Cefetra after an undisclosed out-of-court settlement in June, following a preliminary opinion on the case from one member of the European Court of Justice.
Still, the court continued with its final ruling in order to clarify and harmonize decisions on purpose-bound patent protection across the European Union — and to remove any doubts within the biotech industry.

What wider impact will this decision have?

It "marks a significant restriction on the powers biotech companies can wield with their patents", says Jonathan Radcliffe of UK law firm Nabarro in London. Although lawyers will have to be careful about how they file patents for products containing genetic material, most contacted by Nature feel that the ruling will probably not dampen innovation or investment in the European biotech industry as a whole. If anything, notes Radcliffe, the court decision shows that DNA patents are acceptable in Europe, even if their scope is quite narrow.

"There will be a number of patentees nervously casting an eye over the other independent claims of their patents in order to gauge the degree of protection that remains for their invention," says Gareth Morgan of London legal firm DLA Piper. He thinks that diagnostic firms and other agribusiness companies might be affected if they cannot gain patents in some countries, as Monsanto have failed to do in Argentina.
However, most patents incorporate other legal claims that could be used to enforce protection on products containing genetic material — without resorting solely to claims over DNA sequences as Monsanto had to do, notes Martin MacLean of intellectual-property lawyers Mathys and Squire in London.

The court decision also highlights existing uncertainties in the biotechnology directive, such as its hazy definition of 'genetic material', and whether the DNA's 'function' is the production of a particular protein (with all its uses), or a specific use of that protein. The ruling might push these uncertainties higher up lawyers' agendas, notes Radcliffe.
As for the wider impacts on Monsanto, the company stated that overall patent protection of the company's Roundup Ready soya bean was not at issue, and that it is continuing to work in Argentina "for a fair and equitable solution".

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/1007....2010.345.html

joshuahazen 12-15-2010 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 59227)
Thanks guys, it is a hard pill to swallow.

I hope it isn't cancer but it is growing and changing shape and a second lump has started to grow.

There is zero doubt in my mind that those mints caused this, I had one in that spot for a couple of years. I always bragged "at least they are sugar free"when people would comment on me always having them and buying 10 cases at a time (yay ocd!).

I will let yas know what they say after the biopsy and if they have to cut my face off.

R

edit - I have had skin cancer twice before ...

Shit Dude, I'm so sorry man. Will say a prayer for you friend. Thank you for sharing this, I never trusted that shit. Now I will avoid it like the plague.
Good luck.

Cernunnos 12-15-2010 10:36 AM

Here's some links to another great doco about GM food and Monsanto feature largely in it. The You Tube name of this is called Must See Documentary About GMO. Near the end of the eighth part and into the ninth it focuses on the indigenous corn farmers in Oaxaca, Mexico and how the landrace corn there has become contaminated with gentically modified shite.



Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKABsyX6SM8

2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqPi3...eature=related

3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL0Lk...eature=related

4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_mya...eature=related

5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETrcf...eature=related

6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Ia4...eature=related

7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZmKL...eature=related

8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVryn...eature=related

9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m7hZ...eature=related

10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEW3X...eature=related


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