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bluntmassa 12-01-2017 12:04 AM

Sam The Skunkman finally admitted to working with GMO marijuana.
 
QUOTE=Sam_Skunkman;8125709]In general I oppose GMO crops, they may or not be safe but I hate they way it is used to create varieties that are resistant to Roundup and the like.
CRISPR is different in that no foreign DNA is inserted, it is a tool to edit the genes, and does really the same as breeding but with much more rapid results, as the same alterations will occur in nature or in classical breeding at a much slower rate. CRISPR tech can be considered organic by some groups and not by others. The USDA and various Organic Associations around the world seem to differ on opinions. It can be used to reduce dependence on pesticides, and fungicides, that is good.
CRISPR tech does not require the same disclosure as GMO crops with inserted foreign genes in them, CRISPR can be done with Cannabis and no one could tell the difference between a plant breed using classical breeding and a CRISPR modified plant, so it will happen, but to use the tech it is expensive and also proprietary tech but the savings in time, labor and money using it compared to classical breeding will ensure it is widely use in the near future.
-SamS[/QUOTE]

I've known for a while GW Pharmacuticals was working in partnership with Veritas Pharma Inc. which is the first company to patent a marijuana plant most likely it would be a GMO plant. The company does have an investors statement in which they admit to working to genetically engineer marijuana.

But now Sam is speaking of GMO marijuana that he claimed nobody was working on when I knew it was 100% being worked on thanks to Chimeras work as head breeder with Veritas Pharma Inc. :D

Jaze 12-01-2017 06:31 AM

its times to make my own seeds and stay away from cannabis biz, all this shit is scaring. Chimera seeds are just reworked nevil 'genetic and some north america indicas, nothing new and the price is not so low so not for me thanks, sam the skunkman can keep all his haze hybrids f1 strains too, no CRISPR for me thanks.

Thierry 12-01-2017 10:23 AM

We are working AGAINST nature. CRISPR or not, what are we hoping to achieve?
Faster, stronger, better? Everything needs it's time and this is not set by us but our maker: Nature.

The more we are trying to improve, the more we will fail.

Stay relaxed. We understand nothing.

PlantManBee 12-01-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaze (Post 228696)
its times to make my own seeds and stay away from cannabis biz, all this shit is scaring. Chimera seeds are just reworked nevil 'genetic and some north america indicas, nothing new and the price is not so low so not for me thanks, sam the skunkman can keep all his haze hybrids f1 strains too, no CRISPR for me thanks.

Chimera's seeds have very little in common with Neville's. They are pretty far removed with
the possible exception of a line or two. Especially when compared to many Dutch companies.

CRISPR only uses genes from within the organism if I understand correctly. That is way different than the GMOs that splice rat DNA into tomato DNA. Still a concern but not in the league of creating true chimeras, part fish and part monkey like.

Blunt one you seem like John Oliver and his Drumph "gotcha" gag.

Jaze 12-01-2017 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlantManBee (Post 228705)
Chimera's seeds have very little in common with Neville's. They are pretty far removed with
the possible exception of a line or two. Especially when compared to many Dutch companies.

CRISPR only uses genes from within the organism if I understand correctly. That is way different than the GMOs that splice rat DNA into tomato DNA. Still a concern but not in the league of creating true chimeras, part fish and part monkey like.

Blunt one you seem like John Oliver and his Drumph "gotcha" gag.

maybe im wrong but except dj short genetics (and its overpriced overrated genectics IMO) i was thinking canadian genetics were the result of dutch seeds companies and to me chimera seeds is the result of this, maybe he crossed recently some well known clones only but again, chem, piff, jack, sweet skunk comes all from nevil's strains or sensiseeds which is basicly the same thing.

i will read what is precisly CRISPR but honestly i find sam the skunkman to be a shady person and a know it all, i created everything man like. i should give him credit where its due he sells pure haze seeds and skunk seeds to nevil but one thing is clear to me, in the modern history of cannabis, its not him who bred and share all the well known high quality skunk hybrids and haze hybrids strains we all know ( great white shark, superskunk, early skunk, skunk haze, nevils haze, super silver haze...) and its not him who share the medicinal CBD enriched strains or low THC strains we see at CBD crew now. he bred many strains as i understand and he has some almost pure CBD, pure CBG and pure CBC separate strains bred thru selfing but he never released them to the public. who he choose to sell his seeds ? us the growers ? no, he choose a pharmacetical company GW pharmaceutical. to me it tells a lot.
I have some real trouble to understand the man was a hippie travelling in afghanistan, india, nepal in the 70's. im surprised he's not already working with the israelies... my 2 cents my friends

musashi 12-01-2017 04:29 PM

Itís not about the money, right? /s

Shaka
M

bluntmassa 12-01-2017 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlantManBee (Post 228705)
Chimera's seeds have very little in common with Neville's. They are pretty far removed with
the possible exception of a line or two. Especially when compared to many Dutch companies.

CRISPR only uses genes from within the organism if I understand correctly. That is way different than the GMOs that splice rat DNA into tomato DNA. Still a concern but not in the league of creating true chimeras, part fish and part monkey like.

Blunt one you seem like John Oliver and his Drumph "gotcha" gag.

https://www.livescience.com/60747-cr...t-piglets.html

If you read this article they speak of CRISPR and they call it GMO so you can try to tell me it's not all you like. You can't breed a low fat pig overnight like the Chinese did, well I'm sure it took some time but not several years.

I honestly don't give a damn who wants to grow GMO weed just thought people would like to see that it's truly happening. Of course I knew it was happening I've proved it before just Sam and Chimera always denied having any knowledge it was being done.

I could careless what Chimera has for seeds too it's all clone only's crossed to Jack and before that it was a mixture of DJ Short pollen chucked on clone only's. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I'm not going to stay silent about big pharma trying to control the marijuana industry.

bluntmassa 12-01-2017 06:58 PM

I also know many many people have came to the conclusion Sam The Skunkman has been a DEA informant since before he met Nevil and Nevil never denied it only confirmed it.

Also the DNA database Sam collected is going to be a tool for the DEA. I certainly have not seen anything nice from the DNA (mapping) though might help with GMO's. For a plant to obtain a patent it must be either GMO or true breeding as far as I understand.

PlantManBee 12-01-2017 07:09 PM

A ship load of conflation going on here in my OPINION.

I'm not really happy about CRISPR, but it works WITHIN the existing genome. GMO tends to refer to "Chimeras" created through inserting genetic material from completely different organisms. Like when crops have Bacillus thuringiensis genetic material introduced into their genome.

In theory, everything that can be accomplished through CRISPR could be accomplished through breeding. Not so with GMO. Both are suspect, but they are not the same thing.

As for Sam.... I hate to prejudge. Which is where prejudice comes from. Don't like Sam, that is fine. Just because he is suspect doesn't mean he can't have valuable ideas. Hell, HE is largely responsible for the upstream genetics for Neville. I see people scrambling to pin down Neville's lines every day. Like he created them out of thin air.

I would personally prefer male/female matings and testing. People are being taught that waiting and patience are for fools. I will continue my chopping wood and carrying water, the old way.

bluntmassa 12-01-2017 10:17 PM

Well Nevil certainly didn't create them all himself Sam did come out with Skunk, but after the Sacred Seeds bust which was a collective of seed breeders since the 1930's I believe it was... He did bring about a good amount of strains sure but I think he did more harm than good to this day with his partnership with GW Pharmacuticals.

Really the only reason I'm against medical marijuana. As we see in recent news the first person dead from cannabis a 11 month old who ate some edibles. Not like the baby couldn't have fell out of a window do to shitty parents.

Then in VT a man killed 5 teenagers from driving under the influence of marijuana. That was the headline but the article went on to say that man also had fentanyl and some Barbiturate in his system.

Certainly not a coincidence for those who want to keep marijuana a highly controlled substance. No way would anyone in the cannabis industry conspire against us. LMAO

We have seen the Dutch fight over creations like Blueberry hustle that their AK-47 or Kali Mist is unique. Why oh why would nobody conspire against majority of the seed industry in favor of their GW Pharmacuticals?? Especially when everyone knows Sam is a rat?


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