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Old 02-20-2013, 02:49 AM
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Default U.S. Drug Czar: Federal Prosecutors Will Go After Washington And Colorado Marijuana Distributors

Federal prosecutors will crack down on recreational marijuana dispensaries and growers even in states where they are legal, U.S. drug czar Gil Kerlikowske told a Canadian news magazine this week. The statement appears to be the first from a federal official to state explicitly that the federal government will prosecute dispensaries and producers once they are licensed in Washington and Colorado. During an interview on 20/20, President Obama told Barbara Walters only that the federal government has “bigger fish to fry” than going after recreational users, but did not address those who produce or distribute marijuana. MacLean’s reports:

Q: In the November elections, two states—Washington and Colorado—voted to legalize marijuana for recreational use. President Obama has said that the U.S. government has “bigger fish to fry” than to go after recreational users in states where it is legal. Where do things stand with regard to producers and distributors of marijuana, which is still illegal under federal law?

A: You’ll continue to see enforcement against distributors and large-scale growers as the Justice Department has outlined. They will use their limited resources on those groups and not on going after individual users.

While the questioner rightly points out that distribution and production of marijuana are illegal under federal law (as is possession), Washington and Colorado’s laws do explicitly make both production and distribution of marijuana legal under state law if the entities are licensed and follow regulations.

In states where medical marijuana is legal, federal prosecutors and Drug Enforcement Administration agents have ratcheted up crackdowns of those distributing medical marijuana in seeming compliance with state laws. And Kerlikowske’s statement suggests the federal government will take the same approach to the recreational marijuana laws, in spite of growing public support for state marijuana legalization in the wake of the November election.

Neither Attorney General Eric Holder, nor other representatives from the DOJ or DEA have spoken publicly about their planned approach, other than to issue a statement immediately following the ballot initiatives’ passage saying that enforcement of federal law “remains unchanged.”

The threat of not only shutdown, but harsh federal mandatory minimum jail sentences of ten years just for marijuana distribution — and as high as 85 years if other associated charges are lobbed on – would no doubt have a chilling effect on the recreational marijuana industry, and thwart state efforts to experiment with new approaches to achieving public health and safety goals in the wake of the failed War on Drugs. It remains to be seen, however, whether federal agents would make significant use of their prosecutorial discretion, or merely retain the right to prosecute in very limited circumstances.

The best way to eliminate this threat would be to amend the federal Controlled Substances Act, which the executive branch remains responsible for enforcing. Members of Congress proposed bills last week to regulate and tax marijuana like alcohol in those states where it is legal. Last session, other bills proposed simply exempting those states with marijuana laws from the Controlled Substances Act, and Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said he was open to decriminalizing marijuana. But given congressional inaction on absolutely everything, it will likely fall to prosecutors to decide how the law gets applied.

U.S. Drug Czar: Federal Prosecutors Will Go After Washington And Colorado Marijuana Distributors | ThinkProgress
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:33 PM
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god forbid the DEA actually go after the cartels maybe some heroin and crack dealers. but thats just bullshit going after harmless growers and pushers the DEA should have bigger fish to fry after all local growers only take money out of cartel hands. but the cartels are dangerous they kill daily those are the ones the DEA should go for but their scared cause them cartels will probally kill their whole family so they just go for us harmless criminals.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:30 PM
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Default Police Protection?

As a Legal state business would the state and local police be obliged to defend these businesses? or loose their jobs for failing to protect the free and legal people of their state?
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:58 PM
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As a Legal state business would the state and local police be obliged to defend these businesses? or loose their jobs for failing to protect the free and legal people of their state?
no local police will have to work with the DEA cause fed law trumps state law only one that could stop the DEA would be the president and senate. we definetly got a long hard road to ever see weed actually legal.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:58 PM
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As a Legal state business would the state and local police be obliged to defend these businesses? or loose their jobs for failing to protect the free and legal people of their state?
Actually... Without the States there cannot be a nation so the answer is...

Yes...

Unfortunately, the powers that be have duped the people into believing that all their power is derived from their respective governments...

Without We The People, there can be no states either...

Chew on that for a while.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:58 PM
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Default So They Would Get Fired.

Any State or Local 'authorities' that helped the DEA should then Immediately be fired for violating state law then.

If the Feds try to force them to help fine, but If they do they should loose their jobs for violating the state and local laws they have sworn to uphold.

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I absolutely agree with you Fated...

The most powerful person in any given county/parish in the US of A is the Sheriff (elected), not the deputies. The Sheriff has the power to force any State or Federal agent to report to him/her any time they enter the county and especially when they enter the county on business.

The county I live in is having some major issues and the Fed sent a person to give a public presentation about the subject matter (it's irrelevant to cannabis). Two fully armored and fully armed Department of Homeland Security agent accompanied the presenter. NO questions were allowed to be asked...

WTF HAPPENED TO THIS FREE COUNTRY???

The armed and armored guards were kicked out of the room by the Sheriff... He should have kicked them out of the county. The armed and armored guards were disallowed into the next county that followed our presentation or they would have been arrested.
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:14 AM
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Before we all panic...This is still a democracy. Behind cloesed doors, they almost ALL want it legal. There was the essembalymen from NY who voted against MM in NY, and a few weeks later was pulled over with a bag of weed. These are OUR public servents, some states voted to legalize a harmless plant. When the country changed the drinking age to 21 Louisiana wouldn't so the FEDs cut off funding for roads, and forced them to go with the rest of the country.
Now with cannabis, if taxed, the states won't need the FEDs. Also the State police do not like too deal with the FED as they step on the state police toes. Thoes states will help us out, and the FEDs may bust a few ops up, and make it news worthy, but i see a psitive change. Soon, once the entire county can vote (why havn't we?) the people we speak!
Hang in there guys..it's comming, and ass holes like the one who said this shit in CANADA, probably won't do much, if he wants to be re-elected, or how ever he got his position. Fucking crooked fucks. The pharma, and big business lobbiest are behind all this BS
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:05 PM
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Default The Money Issue Needs some work.

The banks are colluding with the feds to inhibit the process. Unfortunately the banks dont have any real mechanism for oversight from the people.

The banks are seizing assets leaving little choice (in my mind anyway, anyone else have ideas?) but Home Safes (Hide these and bolt them down) and safety deposit boxes under names of people not associated with grow ops.
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Old 03-22-2013, 02:33 PM
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Fated,

I'll draw a treasure map...lol...Your absolutly right though. People who are in this, and make some money have no choice but to break the law in that regard. However, people seem to like cash, and ya can get pretty far without having to use a bank....Well, from what I hear anyways. I hope I have that peoblem one day lol.

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