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Old 10-17-2016, 11:43 PM
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I have found 3 gal. containers work pretty well for LN. A good size for indoor considering the growth spurt these ladies often exhibit. Coco/compost works well. Soil works even better. But I mix them and get good results with this variety. Keep those LN males if you can. They can be important contributors. Aloha M
Sweet, 3 gallons I can manage. I've grown long flowering girls in those buckets before.

You guys are getting me jazzed up over here.

The 4 La Nina haven't popped yet. I haven't been so anxious looking at seed starter pots since my first couple of grows. I feel the love for the hobby getting stronger......

Or maybe it's too much Stella Fuel in my lungs.

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Old 10-18-2016, 08:12 AM
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Hi Mr Jake, Im looking forward to seeing what you come up with. An intriguing mix of genetics I must say. Best of luck brother.
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Hey Jake,

current grow is a CM selection, trying to sort things up a little bit. Got an Encyclopedia of wild plants looking for goodness and I'm very interested in the extracting thing, so I have built a small distillery.

Next strains will be LN, and a few Hazes for potential ingredients such as MHz, NHz AFHz. I'm not too sure what I'm looking for exactly, but I have a feeling I will find it.

Also I want to do a bigger CBD selection going for the z6 or z7 next year.

CBD hasn't appeared in the Heads of "modern" Europeans yet and some are struggling to overcome old indoctrination, but as soon as they will feel the cbd they will understand. My guess.

I'm looking for healing substances in a poisoned World. I think combining and fermenting the right ones together, will bring big progress.

Hi Musahi and skunkha, got a lot out of your input, as Im currently in finding the best selfmixed soil CoCo will definitely play a bigger role. I found roots very happy in CoCo when i tried it.


I am also selecting in smaller Pots, using 1 Gal smartpots and I hadn't have the feeling of missing much in the plants spectrum. In comparison to bigger pots it was just harder to keep happy, as Heat of 36°C almost burnt them to death because I forgot to water one day. Mycorrhiza was the only reason they didn't and were able to bounce back. Maybe one of the greater tips for anybody who is facing unbreakable heat problems. Symbiosis is strong in nature.

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Old 10-18-2016, 10:08 PM
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Ah, Coco. I've been down that road. It's a great alternative to soil and is a cousin of hydro in my mind. I do like growing in soil though. Its definitely what I'm used to and at this point I am not prepared to change up my medium or nutrient regiment. I'll have plenty of other variables with all the variety living in my garden. If you know what I mean!


Thanks for contributing to the thread Skunkha, it's great to have you tagging along.


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Old 10-19-2016, 12:12 AM
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Hello everyone!

Howdy Professor,
It is indeed an intriguing mix. I hope some of them live up to the hype. I'm stoked to have GG#4.... But I'm even more stoked to be running LN.
Thank you for the luck. I think I'll need it with this project.


Thierry, good to see ya,
Let's hear more about your distillery!! Extract artists are very patient people. I commend you.

Your Haze line up is excellent. You're going to have a nice, long running, garden. How do you like the CM?


I'm planning to run the Z6 in limited numbers as part of this very broad search ... I'll be sure to give lots of details. I imagine CBD is making its way to the public very soon over there, hopefully by your hand!

Good luck.


Skunkha, thanks man. I've got a great feeling.... Stay tuned.

Thank you gentlemen for contributing to this thread!


New business:

One La Nina is completely above soil and trying to shed it's helmet! Very quick little rascal. One more is breaking through as I type this. The other two still haven't showed... But time is on their side.

The Girl Scout Cookies arrived and is settling in nicely.

I sprayed everyone with Azamax tonight. About 4ml to a 32oz spray bottle. I see no ill effects from the Pest Bully and absolutely no sign of bugs so I will be integrating it into the normal maintenance program.

Last note, the veg area is about to get busy. I will be pulling down the T5 and setting the 600w MH now that summer temperatures are gone and I will need more light moving forward.

I will set the T5 up somewhere else and use it as a seedling/ young clone light if I can... I'll have to see how much juice I've got left in my two circuits.


Thanks again for tuning in.

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Old 10-19-2016, 07:27 AM
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Hi there Bro

Nice progress.

One quick thing I wanted to throw in:
Did you remember the age old advice of quarantining the clones you received?

Just popped into my head when reading this because I just had the root aphid infestation on my first grow because I brought in vegetables in generic garden soil which was infested with root aphids.

When this happened I vowed to really take the whole "isolate whatever you get from outside before introducing it into your garden" reaaaaal serious

Otherwise stoked for what will transpire from your venture.

Still have to update y'all on my own progress with pics. The Critical Mass is really exploding.

Blessings and stay frosty Bro
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Old 10-19-2016, 02:21 PM
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...I am also selecting in smaller Pots, using 1 Gal smartpots and I hadn't have the feeling of missing much in the plants spectrum. In comparison to bigger pots it was just harder to keep happy, as Heat of 36°C almost burnt them to death because I forgot to water one day. Mycorrhiza was the only reason they didn't and were able to bounce back. Maybe one of the greater tips for anybody who is facing unbreakable heat problems...
Hey braddah, have you tried a silicate product? I've had great success using this supplement. It has also been helpful in providing better mechanical support for some of those spindly sats I've come to know and love.

Cool runnin braddahs
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Why You Should Use Potassium Silicate.
Many benefits can be gained by using a good Potassium Silicate product in your feeding program. Increased tolerance of environmental stress, heat, cold, drought, water and soil toxicity or deficiency, improved growth rate both in the root zone and in the plant it foliage. By using Potassium Silicate with clones can increase the rate of roots kicked by as much as 80%.

Potassium Silicate is a natural fungicide, it helps build the plants defense from attacks by insects, fungi. Potassium Silicate helps the plant growth by depositing it self epidermal cell walls, enhancing the plant's ability to keep the leaves pointed towards the light source. It also increases the stem strength, making it easier to hold up more weight. As the plant builds it self up with Potassium Silicate, it helps with balancing nutrient uptake and distribution, and increased concentration of chlorophyll and RUBP carboxylase in leaves. (AKA the Calvin cycle)

How Potassium Silicate Increases Resistance to Pathogens
Potassium Silicate is impregnated in the epidermal cell layer acting as a barrier against penetration of fungal attacks from powdery mildew, black spots, pythium and phytophthora and many more fugal problems. Silicate also increase the mechanical strength of the plant to help it in extreme heat and cold swings, salt build up in soils or increased TDS in water, and controls the rate of transpiration of plants.

Potassium Silicate plays an active role in combating fungal growth by the production of polyphenolic compounds, this is a main part of the plants natural defense against fugal and insect attacks.


The plants leaf system will rapidly bound potassium Silicate in the tissue and cell walls with in 24 hours of uptake. Therefore a continuous source of Silicate is very important. When silicate uptake by the plant it will start with the older growth and work is way into the newer growth to help build up the mechanical strength of the plant.


When adding Silicate to a foliage spray program, it will help lower the rate of disease attack and helps protect the plants new leafs from spider mites, aphids, and many other sucking type insects.

How Potassium Silicate Increases the Metabolic Rate of Plants
It has been shown that silicate improves resistance to wilt, resistance to water stress, can help fight heat stress up too 105 deg F. If your plant has excessive transpiration, the plant will cease it metabolic function and stunted or no growth will occur.

Use if silicates in cloning or new seedlings helps speed up the rate of growth by as much as 90% (University of Florida and Minnesota). Also the study showed that 18% top 80% increase of dry weight of fruit and herbs.

It also increases reproductive rate in plants (Bud Growth). Increases tolerance of Zinc deficiencies, excessive phosphorus, manganese, sodium and aluminum toxicity.


REFERENCES
1. Marschner, H., Mineral Nutrition of Higher Plants, Academic Press, 1995, pp. 417-426,440-442.
2. Datnoff, L.E., et al., “Influence of Silicon Fertilizer Grades on Blast and Brown Spot
Development and on Rice Yields,” Plant Disease, October 1992, pp. 1011-1013.
3. Miyake, Y. and E. Takahashi, “Effect of Silicon on the Growth of Cucumber Plant in Soil
Culture,” Soil Sci. Plant Nutr., 29 (4), 1983, pp. 463-471.
4. Miyake, Y. and E. Takahashi, “Effect of Silicon on the Growth and Fruit Production of
Strawberry Plants in a Solution Culture,” Soil Sci. Plant Nutr., 32 (2), 1986, pp. 321-326.
5. Miyake, Y. and E. Takahashi, “Silicon Deficiency of Tomato Plant,” Soil Sci. Plant Nutr.,
24, 1978, pp. 175-189.
6. Schmidt, R.E., et al., “Response of Photosynthesis and Superoxide Dismutase to Silica
Applied to Creeping Bentgrass Grown Under Two Fertility Levels,” J. Plant Nutrition, 22
(11), 1999, pp. 1763-1773.
7. Posters presented at Silicon in Agriculture Conference, Sept. 26-30, 1999, Ft.
Lauderdale, FL. “Effects of Silicon on the Seedling Growth of Creeping Bentgrass and
Zoysiagrass,” by Z. Linjuan et al., China Agricultural University; “Influence of Silicon and
Host Plant Resistance on Gray Leaf Spot Development in St. Augustinegrass,” by L.E.
Datnoff and R.T. Nagata, University of Florida.
8. Chen, J., et al., “Let’s Put the Si Back into Soil,” University of Florida, Mid-Florida
Research and Education Center, Apopka, FL.
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Old 10-19-2016, 02:46 PM
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Just popped into my head when reading this because I just had the root aphid infestation on my first grow because I brought in vegetables in generic garden soil which was infested with root aphids.

When this happened I vowed to really take the whole "isolate whatever you get from outside before introducing it into your garden" reaaaaal serious
Yep, I no longer take outside clones because of all the problems it has caused. Mites, PM, gnats, you name it. I've tried the GG, GSC, Chocolope, many others. The GSC and Chocolope hermed under stress. Fems? No thank you. The GG was the worst PM magnet... they taught me about diseases, recessive expressions, hermaphrodites. While I have enjoyed some of these offerings in the past they haven't contributed to my gene pool. Can you say stability? Many of these strains lack that and IMJ while smokable are not worth keeping for the projects I am currently involved in. I've had enough experience with MNS regular seeds to know that they have more than enough offerings to satisfy my needs.

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Old 10-19-2016, 05:18 PM
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Mu- bad ass information on silica. Thanks so much! I may need to make another run to the grow store to see if I can trade some bamboo stakes for silica. I may have missed it- any particular brand/ product you recommend?

Bro and Mu-

Yes, I am treating all my plants as if they have the plague. Their first experience is getting dunked and shaken into a sink full of diluted h2o2 followed by a close inspection with my loupe. They probably think I'm a mad man, but I assure them that this is a process that will help them.

After that I spray every Tues, Thurs, and Sat to make sure anything that is still around after that does not have a chance in hell of survival.

I have also taken my basement completely over... I used to allow cats and dogs to come down with me but that is over. I need to know nothing is coming in through the basement door.

Between the Azamax,Neem oil and Pest Bully I think I will come out pest free and roll right into flower.

Cross your fingers for me gents.



3 of 4 La Nina were above ground when I left for work this morning!! I'm very excited.


Thanks for all the input guys, you all rock!


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Old 10-20-2016, 03:53 AM
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Thanks Skunkha,

I will look into some supplement brands.... Or look into natural amendments that I can just add to the soil.


New Business
3 out of 4 La Nina are up and searching for light. I had to pull the shell off of the first plant that popped up. The colytedon opened up with in an hour. So far I am seeing typical MNS vigor right off the bat

My Koala Berry mother bush is starting to put out new growth again. She is due one more pruning and I will post pictures once that is complete.
It is worth noting that this mother plant was "monster cropped" as in it was taken from a flowering plant... Initially i thought it was cool because the branching was plentiful and quick. Only after it stabilized completely back into vegetative state did I realize the growth is all wrong. Its like 100 sucker shoots... I have been trying to trim away a lot and shoot for 20-30 growth shoots right before flowering. Nothing like any other clone I've taken.

Moral of the story:
Re-vegging is not a fun road... get your pruning shears ready!


That's all for now

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