Shark Shock Growers Unite

Resinbud,I'll have a chat with ya,since I got all my outdoor work done early!
I would say going by experience with both Widow cross Skunk,and Widow Afghani,as these genetics combined,and others,went into Fantasia,I would say that ya will find a more CBD active stone,from Med Man,but it is all in the selection.Some have a calm body,calm mind effect,others have total shut down effect! Shark Shock seems to have that frighting Sativa head shift,that makes ya feel like ya sitting next to yaself,and others are crosseyed causeing,
but most will keep ya awake,just when ya need to rest!!!
Reminds me of the Widows ancestor,Mullembimbi Madness!!!
Whooo Hooo,howling at the moon!!!
 
Reminds me of the Widows ancestor,Mullembimbi Madness!!!
I dont think the Mullembimbi Madness and Widow have anything in common. However I do believe Shanti has stock within his gene pool that is related to the Madness, as Shanti is said to have had much more to do with the Legendary madness then most realize.
 
JessE,I am pretty sure that Shanti used the Madness,in the creation of the White family,and I have an old Cannabis Culture mag,where Shanti talks to Breeder Steve,and tells him that the Madness is the strongest strain on the planet,and that he used it create the White family,and,being a fourth generation Mullem local,I,myself do believe that I have smoked the original madness,when I was a kid,atleast twenty five years ago,an all asian Indica/Sativa of the HIGHEST order!!!
Shanti and Neville,will tell us!
 
Hi Wizard,
I am pretty confident the Widow is not related to the Madness. But there is variety in the MNS camp that may very well have origins to the Madness. Take that for what its worth my friend, I do not wish to argue with you.
 
Breeder Steve (SOL) must have made it all up then,ah!I'll send ya picture of the interveiw,if ya want!
I do not pretend to know anything,I go by what info is available,to everyone,it just might be how that info is percieved,by some,ah!!!
White Widow(Mullembimbi Madness x Shiva Skunk).
Look it up,in the strain lists availble on the net,if ya want!
 
Breeder Steve (SOL) must have made it all up then,ah!I'll send ya picture of the interveiw,if ya want!
And,listen here mate,I do not pretend to know anything,I go by what info is available,to everyone,it just might be how that info is percieved,by some,ah!!!
White Widow(Mullembimbi Madness x Shiva Skunk).
Look it up,in the strain lists availble on the net,if ya want!

Well actually White Widow is a Brazilian Sativa x South Indian hybrid, but some work was done to it.
I cant attest for what Breeder Steve said, but I can assure you my friend he is mistaken on this matter. I dont need to see the interview, because Im fairly up to speed on the Mr. Nice varietys and basic history of those involved. Some folks like our friend Kashgari seem to be encyclopedia's of information that is invaluable and always interesting, but like yourself I go with the available information. And having been a regular contributer to the Mr. Nice forums for years Im comfortable in my feelings that the Widow is not related to the Madness. But as I mentioned, you have the right source for the Madness .....you are just a little confused on which variety you should be talking about in relation to the Madness.


Again, I dont want to argue with you and I dont pretend to know anything either. Maybe Im wrong, who knows.


:)
 
hi all look i think its best to try to move on if you feel its importent start a new post on it.

This same topic with breeder steve had came up a few times once at the old site CW and shanti corected it and i think even steve posted also and corected it.

hi Oz the mmadnes is not related to the widow family at all mate the real madnes was one of the strains shanti worket on from what shanti has stated it is infact the first strain he cut his teeth on he and 3 others created something very special.

A lot have posted in the time iv been posting on line that they have the madnes fact is they didnt you know your self if your liveing up that way lots of growers call there unknow sativas just that MM but the quolity of the MM will very am i right well the real MM would blow your socks of mate last time i saw it was i think 87 .
 
Hempy,real Madness goes back to when the Chinese bought seed here,to feed their birds.They also brought lots of different fruit(bananna)etc.These plants were grown at a place called Chinamans' Hill.This is were,my ancestors grew hundreds of acres,of banannas!
Later,in the sixties,hippies,surfers and ferals,came to Northern NSW,to smoke the magic herb,growin' wild,around the hills.They camped at the back of our farm,at harvest time,paying a little rent,with work,and,partied on!!!
Over the years,farmers started growin',for cash.This commercialisation brought about the need for names of products,like Cambodian Red,Thai Buddha and so on.Mullembimbi Madness,is not pot grown at Mullem,but rather,it was the strains,originally grown at Mullem!!! So,any strain that clames to have Madness genetics,must go back,a very,very long way.Strains like Old Mother Sativa,Hunter Valley Sativa etc.Mullem Madness,comes from this era.
I would say Mango Haze,Mikado,White strains,all have some Mullem genetics in them!!!
Also,any Ganja grown in the alluvial soils of Northern NSW,usually turns out spectacular!!!
 
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............what happened to your,reply posts,there JessE?
As far as I know, its still right where it always was Wizard :)



Well actually White Widow is a Brazilian Sativa x South Indian hybrid, but some work was done to it.
I cant attest for what Breeder Steve said, but I can assure you my friend he is mistaken on this matter. I dont need to see the interview, because Im fairly up to speed on the Mr. Nice varietys and basic history of those involved. Some folks like our friend Kashgari seem to be encyclopedia's of information that is invaluable and always interesting, but like yourself I go with the available information. And having been a regular contributer to the Mr. Nice forums for years Im comfortable in my feelings that the Widow is not related to the Madness. But as I mentioned, you have the right source for the Madness .....you are just a little confused on which variety you should be talking about in relation to the Madness.


Again, I dont want to argue with you and I dont pretend to know anything either. Maybe Im wrong, who knows.


:)
 
You know,the post about the strain called Trinity.
BTW,I too do have a strain called Trinity!!!
(NLxSKxBoomi)=Trinity,in my personal seed stock.
Also,how is Original Misty,related to Widow?Sister seeds,from what I've heard?
 
Hi Wizard,
There is a variety called Misty from Nirvana seeds.


Misty is a delightfully flavored variety, some say it tastes like candy. Misty has a bushy appearance is very resinous and with a family relationship of White Widow and Snow White, what you would expect? Misty Yields a powerful relatively light smoke, great for sharing, extraordinary taste and it's easy to grow.


Plant height: Short Plant
Stoned or high?: Medium Indica/Sativa
THC level: High THC
Flowering Weeks: 8/9
Yield : 500
Harvest Month: 8/9

Now not many people are privy to what Mau does, but I suspect Misty is infact an F1 Black Widow from Shantibaba, something you could find fairly easily if you purchased a few packs from MNS crossed to a Widow hybrid in Snow White. So who knows the exact pedigree, yet another reason not to go with Nirvana seeds for anything other then price considerations. I have grown some Nirvana seeds with mixed results though.

So I would guess it to be something roughly like Black Widow x Black widow/Skunk or Black widow/NL since Mau is said to use skunk and NL quite often in his seed making process.


I just found Original Misty from HGF
Original Misty






this is one sexy lady, a truly beautiful plant , bustling with thc glands a top producer in terms of yeild gourment taste andÿ a sweet aroma

Indoors: 8 - 9 weeks


10 seeds

Obviously unknown origin from this information, but I would wager money if the Nirvana description has any bearing in the HGF Original Misty then this is little more then a Black Widow hybrid as well. Shantibaba turned the breeding world upside down when he introduced Widow, and everyone tried to capitalize on his years of hard work by knocking the variety off in hybirds and 2nd generation seeds. So no, original Misty isnt a true Sister Variety to Widow, it is basically a knock off hybrid of a variety from the MNS camp or back from Shanti's Days at the GreenHouse. Either way, if it has any relation to widow at all its a hybrid of one of shantis varietys ultimately.

Good luck on your quest, I would recommend going straight to the source for your Widow and Widow hybrids.

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The only one who has a real queen mother of the Widow is Shanti mate. He is the only one who has the real King father of the Widow too.

Any claims of having the original widow or the 1st that are not coming from the MNS camp are basically fraudulent claims.
 
JessE,show me the seeds,then show me the plants,from Shanti,because,from what I've seen,none of them even resemble the original!!!
And I do not see a giant outdoor grow,anywhere in Shanti's history,of The Widow.That tells me,that the seeds aren't stable.And,when we buy seeds of say,Shit or Devil or Shark Shock or Super Silver Haze,we would expect some variation,but,from what I've seen,if we buy 15 seed,we get 15 different plants!The plants from these seeds,rarely,look the same,as the ones in Shantis green house pictures.By now,you would think that Shit,is just Shit.And if we buy Devil it should be exactly like Devil,in Shantis garden.Is this the case?I think not.Because these guys are in the business of selling seeds,with diversity,not stability.Which makes a hell of a lot of work,interesting work,but hard work,that newbies,just can not do!!!
 
Any further discussion should be aimed to other members Wizard, because you and I have nothing else to discuss.

Unlike most moderators it is always a wish not to have to censor things, as who knows where it leads.But Mr Thorax has asked to be deactivated on this site himself via a pm.I am just back and I find this to be a solution but one I did not suggest. I will only ask to all memebers to ignore rudeness and rather than give fuel to a fire a flame it starves it of oxygen and the flame fails to ignite dry foliage around it...
My wish is not to have to control people's decorum...maybe the content at times but not much more, please keep it civil as I know you all usually do better than other sites.Cheers all the success and good to be back...Shantibaba
 
Touch a nerve,there JessE!
If I remember correctly,this thread was started, not by you!
And,what about Wernard,founder of the Coffeeshop system.Is he a rude,fraudulant,cheating liar,too.He originally sold seeds called Misty,Sister of White Widow.
No one is disputing,that Shanti created Widow,while he owned Green House,where did Wernard get it from?But,it would be stupid,not to buy genetics,that had been carefully improved,by experts,alike,other wise,things get very stagnant.This is the true meaning of stability from diversity!!!
I like the beans,to prove themselves.People are people,and we need to grow with knowledge and humility,no matter where it comes from,we are all hyjackers of information.Who owns what,what owns who.We are all breathing the same air;I think!!!
 
man what is wrong with you man?? Why are you say stability from diversity its a new word that you learn?? mabey you are in worng forum bro her we dont exept HATE so stay low:)
 
Whats The Problem?

mabey you are in worng forum bro her we dont exept HATE so stay low:)
Hello wizard,
It seems you have came here to try and disrupt our members and what we have built here together as a small community, i have become very suspicious of you over the past few weeks, and who you are "or who you represent", and the real reason you are here.
you also seem to have alot of hate towards some of our respected members here on our forum aswell, good members who contribute in a very positive way unlike yourself and all your Negative remarks,"is there a reason for that hatred wizard?",or are you just "another one" that can,t accept what belongs to Shanti and not you?.
 
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