HP-13

Snowhigh has recently put up pictures of his HP-13 grow (not to be confused with Swampy and NDNGuy's g13/hp which motarebel swindled out of oldhand to make his new line). If you can track them down you can see the beauty that beholds this plant. The cut originated in Maui before making its rounds to New York where it gained its largest amount of fame.

Hey Caligula, I see you saw my link in Captn's MK thread. Let me ask you do have any proof of Motarebel "swindiling" old hand for his seed stock?

I would be very interested, as I dont know who you are and not sure you really got it right.

My understanding is that after Mota received these beans he f2'd them and then sent a shit load out to the medical community and breeders alike to go through and find that one special pheno to bread with, hoping to later on get the cut back to make the hybrid.

CM
 
You ask do I have proof? As in what a Thread on the Farm?

Other than that I was there and my partner received the same stock at the same time from the same person with the same restrictions. Hell, ask NDNGuy about it, I'm sure he's still pissed. Oldhand traded the shit to Jotorebel on a promise and got stiffed like everyone else who deals with the guy. And as far as Mota doing ANYTHING for the medical community... come on. Let's be real. Do you know much about the guy? Unfortunately, I do, and my partner was disillusioned by what he had heard about him and thought it would be a great idea to work with the guy - all to end up on his face. He didn't F2 anything himself. I doubt the guy has touched a growing cannabis plant int he last 5 years. he farms out his work to people he can take advantage of. He makes false trades to people to get better genetics and passes them onto his loyal little soldiers. I don't mean to slam anyone else who works with the guy, in fact I hope they come off better for it. I've seen Jeffman do fantastic stuff, so this shouldn't reflect on him. He isn't the one intentionally throwing people under the semi truck, as it were.
 
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You ask do I have proof? As in what a Thread on the Farm?

Other than that I was there and my partner received the same stock at the same time from the same person with the same restrictions. Hell, ask NDNGuy about it, I'm sure he's still pissed. Oldhand traded the shit to Jotorebel on a promise and got stiffed like everyone else who deals with the guy. And as far as Mota doing ANYTHING for the medical community... come on. Let's be real. Do you know much about the guy? Unfortunately, I do, and my partner was disillusioned by what he had heard about him and thought it would be a great idea to work with the guy - all to end up on his face. He didn't F2 anything himself. I doubt the guy has touched a growing cannabis plant int he last 5 years. he farms out his work to people he can take advantage of. He makes false trades to people to get better genetics and passes them onto his loyal little soldiers. I don't mean to slam anyone else who works with the guy, in fact I hope they come off better for it. I've seen Jeffman do fantastic stuff, so this shouldn't reflect on him. He isn't the one intentionally throwing people under the semi truck, as it were.

Not here to fight battles for anyone. But dont like negitive vibes and bringing peoples names in to things that shouldn't. For example, Jeffman. WTF? But since you brought him into the mix which I have no understanding why, other then he, along with thousands of others, including myself have grown out Mota's gear. I bet if you ask Jeffman if he paid for Mota's beans, he will tell you he got them for free and from Mediseed Collective!

This should really be coming from your "partner" as I dont see how it has to do with you or the Mr. Nice forum. I dont know NDNguy, but his first post here was in Heavy D's thread HPxNl#1xG13. This is what we are talking about right? HPxNl1xG13?

As for asking NDNguy, dont think its necessary. Check post no. 18.

This wasn''t called Mr Nice back then, Mr Nice is a totally different plant , newer genetics were used for Mr Nice they sell today the original G13 cut was not used for Mr Nice. GHash is not Mr Nice as it was made in the 80's Mr Nice wasn't.;)

I do not see where NDNguy is upset about F2's of HPxNl1XG13 in that thread.

As for Mota and the detroit medical scene. He is one of the first to give beans out to those that couldnt afford genetics.

Also, Mediseed Collective has tonns of Mota's gear that is constantly shared, tested and passed along. I guess you are not a member there?

So any way, really this is Nevils plant. The HPxNL1 so I dont see why you or your partner are upset. If you ask me, Nevil is the one to really have a stance on it.

Again, I dont know NDNguy, but I guess he should be accredited or respected for holding the HPxNl1 (keeping it safe all these years) and then hitting it with airbourns G13.

This business, people take others work all the time and do what they wish to it.

From reading what Mota is currently selling, I dont see any HPxNl1xG13, so dont understand what you are getting at.

You know where to find Mota, why dont you express yourself to him there!

Peace,

CM
 
CM - been there done that. Maybe I'm confusing what you spoke of with the NDN G13/HP from 1988. So many people spoke about the G13.Hp in an Hp13 thread I assumed that was what you were referring to - Shouldn't assume, right?

HOWEVER the story holds true there.

Reason I brought up Jeffman is because he often works with Mota and people often take things to levels they shouldn't, and I wanted to make sure people know that no disrespect is meant at anyone else.

And why not my partner? Because what I own, he owns, and the same the other way.

If you love the guy, rad more power to you, but know what you're loving friend.
 
CM - been there done that. Maybe I'm confusing what you spoke of with the NDN G13/HP from 1988. So many people spoke about the G13.Hp in an Hp13 thread I assumed that was what you were referring to - Shouldn't assume, right?

HOWEVER the story holds true there.

Reason I brought up Jeffman is because he often works with Mota and people often take things to levels they shouldn't, and I wanted to make sure people know that no disrespect is meant at anyone else.

And why not my partner? Because what I own, he owns, and the same the other way.

If you love the guy, rad more power to you, but know what you're loving friend.

My brother got fucked for a clone only strain... A guy created a line based on my brothers cut (who he got from an old timer that has been holding it for moons). He actually started a seedbank based all on that one plant. I am not going on boards and slamming the guy who took his cut and did what he wanted. My brother is a grown up and can hold his own!

As for loving Mota. I dont know where I wrote that? Like I mentioned about three times already, I dont know him. I have grown his Herijuana. AAA bud Caligula.

I do love Shanti though.

Just check yourself man and leave your brothers beef at other boards.

Bottom line, HPxNl1, HPxNL2 or HPxG13 are still Nevils. The rest is all lost in translation...

CM
 
If it were just a brother's beef I would. But really, I don;t care to ever bring up that exchange again as it made me and my boyfriend (sorry, not my brother, and not just my "brother's beef - this sounds like a bad porno) waste a great deal of time admiring someone who deserves no admiration.
 
Quite the gossip monger because I stated a fact? It ain't gossip if it happens to you, hunny.

And what the hell does any of it matter since none of it is Hp-13 anyway, and neither is what y'all are showing pictures of.
 
ok guys let me clear a few things :

- i don t have any problem seeing my names associated with one or another. i'm only working with cannabis because i love it and will stay true to my roots.

- i never got motarebel seeds from mediseed (but we did give a lot away on that forum), mota and I were partner in the motarebel militia (right after he got popped) and then with the blazing pistileros, that s how i got my mota stock, before we were partner i bought some of his seeds from GSA in holland, grew them and liked it

- mota got the ghash directly from brother NDN, only requirement was to not release pure ghash, and he only released ghash crossed.. so NO ndn is not pissed off because he was the one who offered the seeds. and no mota haven t swindled these seeds from oldhand, we were all part of the same forum and everyone got access to these genetics.

- i m not with motarebel anymore, so really don t give a flying f**k what he s doing or what he has done, none of my business at all. just wanted to clear a few things.

cheers
jeffman
 
hey hempy
i dont think we re talking about the same place. the sentence you highlighted i was referring to the creative garden, not MSC

MSC is a website full of kind persons, willing to help each other with genetics, i dont think they ever passed around hakked seeds from shanti test lines.. MSC works as a genetics pools, everyone can send whatever they want to the vault for people in need to choose from and grow them out for free.

no hype and no money involved, only sick people trying to get their medicines. and it is not a "secret website" it is just a private collective nothing else.

cheers
jeffman
 
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Aside from the BS before, we're over wasting time on fake hp13 seeds. I'm working the Hp13/OG clone right now. Some great hashplanty features to it with a sativa dominant look from the OG "Kush". It's amazing that in an hp13 thread hardly anyone but bigherb has spoken about the stran.

I'd love to gets some facts straight about it's actual origins... whether it's a landrace grown by a family, etc... I'm sure someone out there was around when this phenotype of a hashplant was found?

I'm also working a line JJNY made with the hp13 - Hp13 x Tres Dawg to see if there are any true similarities between itself and the HP13/OG. Time will tell I suppose? With all the years spent in tracking this down and only ending up with a hybrid I hope it's worth it!
 
Here's some pics of the LA Affie aka Afghani #1 Cali Cut - it's one of those top 10-15 plants that I'll keep with me wherever I go in my adventures.

I'd Grace LA AFFIE On My Deck Anyday. It Would Accompany The G13xHz I'm Growing:). Got A Feeling This Summers Going To Be A Good One
JKP
 
You can be sure of it. Usually the name has been changed to protect the insecure, but not always. There is one guy I know who has reputedly taken it to a new level. I'm waiting for the seeds. This one should be really interesting. I'll keep you informed.
N.
I know this is quite old, hopefully I haven't done wrong by bumping it. I'm interested in the hashplant these days.

So, that was Nevil's response to this question " To your knowledge are there any breeders beside SB that did anything really nice with the HP1.G13? " by Chana Masala. Did he ever inform us on those seeds? Does anyone have any idea who he was referring to? Did MNS ever sell these genetics?
 
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