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i have heard that the haze in the la nina is actually a auzzie haze called mullumbimby madness or something,is this true?anyone know where i can get auzzie outdoor seeds on the net?
Shanti possesses one which is a Thai Colombian cross with an undisclosed 25% indic a. This line is 50% of la Nina sold here.
You dont know the make up of shantis mullum bushy and shanti had his mullum longer than kanga has had his version.
Kanga got his in 85 i believe from a guy that was growing it before that.
Only shanti can tell us what is in his version that he and 3 other i think it was breed around main arm .
shantibaba said:"The seed I used was from original seed grown in northern NSW in the late 70s and 80s of which some referred to it as Mullumbimby Madness...what I considered a Thai Columbian inbreed line from a fellow grower who had had it growing and collected the seed himself from those places in his travels. There were other strains similar viewed as Mullum Madness, so it depends who you spoke to at the time."
shantibaba said:"To answer a bit about Mullumbimby Madness, well that was one of my strains that I worked on in the late 70s and early 80s when I lived in a small village called Main Arm, in between Byron Bay and Kyogle/Lizmore.There was a few legends helping out altogether and we hit something incredible.I still have that as one of the seed stocks that we grow for personal use. It basically was a 3/4 sativa, which is a huge tree and perfect to grow in that sub tropical climate of NSW north out doors.To do this strain inside you need height!!"
posted by bushy-
Originally Posted by shantibaba
"The seed I used was from original seed grown in northern NSW in the late 70s and 80s of which some referred to it as Mullumbimby Madness...what I considered a Thai Columbian inbreed line from a fellow grower who had had it growing and collected the seed himself from those places in his travels. There were other strains similar viewed as Mullum Madness, so it depends who you spoke to at the time."
Originally Posted by shantibaba
"To answer a bit about Mullumbimby Madness, well that was one of my strains that I worked on in the late 70s and early 80s when I lived in a small village called Main Arm, in between Byron Bay and Kyogle/Lizmore.There was a few legends helping out altogether and we hit something incredible.I still have that as one of the seed stocks that we grow for personal use. It basically was a 3/4 sativa, which is a huge tree and perfect to grow in that sub tropical climate of NSW north out doors.To do this strain inside you need height!!"
Elementary my dear hempy...
Kangativa possesses one that is 20 week flowering strain probably Thai x Colombian.
posted by Kangativa -Yeah m8.....I was doing the same surfing and growing MM and wiping people out. It was a super strong strain, origins unknown as far as I know, but well established for that time.....as you would know now that the seasons have changed up here and now rain comes late most times
I think you would mean the little power station near the turn off to Huonbrook, which is at the back of Mullum......I never saw the purple strain, sounds interesting.
I have tried to keep the strain going through all these years to the best of my ability and that was never helped by the raids, but the quality is still there.......here is a pic of what I have grown for this year
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-shantibaba-mrnice/3346-trip-down-memory-lane-shanti.html
Old Mother sativa is another which is said to be from early Thai stick, and is possessed by a few including a guy called sensient who sometimes frequents here.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-shantibaba-mrnice/2572-old-mother-staiva.htmlhey all,hey shanti,i just thought this might be intresting to you?
I,m from aus myself,and have spent much time around the hunter valley region in northern n.s.w,i am a long time grower and came across a strain know as old mother sativa,it,s also been called mullumbimby maddness,and a few other names,but it,s true name is old mother,anyways,it is a buatiful pure sativa giant,very simular in look to the haze,it,s not known exactly when it hit aussie shores,or exactly where it is from,it,s defiantly a southeast asian sativa,or maybe a mix of tropi sats,but i and many others beleive it to be a pure line,it obviously has been heavily inbreed,but can vary from plant to plant greatly,the seeds i got hold of years ago was from a guy who,s been aparently growing her for over twenty years,he,s never hybridised it,and has been selecting for the huge pheno it can produce,(2-3 metres tall,equally as wide,and huge yeilds),i have onlt noticed slight hermi tedencies,and from the talks i had with him he says he has been working on the hermi tedencies,but unfortunatly some do pop up in variuos populations.
I find the strain to be amazing to grow,such a beautiful sativa specimen!
and very rare these days,anyway mate,was just wondering if you had any experiance with,seen or grown the strain before?
i have grown some f1,s produced by this strain,including a cross with your original shit.the hybrid with the shit produced some truely am,azing plants,the cross produced a stable f1 generation,plants mainly exibited traits from the old mother,huge plants with a slightly wider fingerd leaf pattern,but the bud structure seemed more shit dominate,the mix defianly addeed flavour and potency to the cross,and i nticed the plants purpled right up in cooler conditions,i think due to the shit influence,as i have never seen it in the pure om,except the occasional purple hues noticed in most strains in cooler out door temps,anway mate,enough waffling on,just thought it might intrest you,grat to here if you have had experiance with her or know much about her?anyway guys,take care....sensient
p.s,i have plenty more info i wanted to post about the strain,will get to it soon..sensi
this Nev's Haze shot is about the best of the year so far...
I'm trying to work it out hempy...
Thialand and Bowling for Colombine?
posted by Kangativa -Yeah m8.....I was doing the same surfing and growing MM and wiping people out. It was a super strong strain, origins unknown as far as I know, but well established for that time.....as you would know now that the seasons have changed up here and now rain comes late most times
I think you would mean the little power station near the turn off to Huonbrook, which is at the back of Mullum......I never saw the purple strain, sounds interesting.
I have tried to keep the strain going through all these years to the best of my ability and that was never helped by the raids, but the quality is still there.......here is a pic of what I have grown for this year
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-sh...ne-shanti.html
Originally Posted by sensient View Post
hey all,hey shanti,i just thought this might be intresting to you?
I,m from aus myself,and have spent much time around the hunter valley region in northern n.s.w,i am a long time grower and came across a strain know as old mother sativa,it,s also been called mullumbimby maddness,and a few other names,but it,s true name is old mother,anyways,it is a buatiful pure sativa giant,very simular in look to the haze,it,s not known exactly when it hit aussie shores,or exactly where it is from,it,s defiantly a southeast asian sativa,or maybe a mix of tropi sats,but i and many others beleive it to be a pure line,it obviously has been heavily inbreed,but can vary from plant to plant greatly,the seeds i got hold of years ago was from a guy who,s been aparently growing her for over twenty years,he,s never hybridised it,and has been selecting for the huge pheno it can produce,(2-3 metres tall,equally as wide,and huge yeilds),i have onlt noticed slight hermi tedencies,and from the talks i had with him he says he has been working on the hermi tedencies,but unfortunatly some do pop up in variuos populations.
I find the strain to be amazing to grow,such a beautiful sativa specimen!
and very rare these days,anyway mate,was just wondering if you had any experiance with,seen or grown the strain before?
i have grown some f1,s produced by this strain,including a cross with your original shit.the hybrid with the shit produced some truely am,azing plants,the cross produced a stable f1 generation,plants mainly exibited traits from the old mother,huge plants with a slightly wider fingerd leaf pattern,but the bud structure seemed more shit dominate,the mix defianly addeed flavour and potency to the cross,and i nticed the plants purpled right up in cooler conditions,i think due to the shit influence,as i have never seen it in the pure om,except the occasional purple hues noticed in most strains in cooler out door temps,anway mate,enough waffling on,just thought it might intrest you,grat to here if you have had experiance with her or know much about her?anyway guys,take care....sensient
p.s,i have plenty more info i wanted to post about the strain,will get to it soon..sensi
20'thai said:"You're about to grow an old sativa that came to Ozz from Thailand in the form of stick(buddah) in the late 50's. She was passed onto me in the mid 70's by me departed Uncle, though I had seen him grow here many times since I was young.
20'thai said:So the Mullum is NOT a strain that was developed here as many erronously thought till recent times. That is how she came directly from Thailand mate.
20'thai said:In the end Bushy, all that matters is that you have an outstanding genepool, to which all strains that fly under the banner of Mullum are. Don't you get it? It's in the land and environment, not so much the genes. Genes can only take you so far, the rest is up to the grower... where he grows and how he grows. Genes just maintain a signatory vibration of the essence of the spirit of the strain. How it's expressed externally is externally dependent.
You know what really matters here bushy ? That its good smoke and its Australian.
Go ask the old smokers the guys in there 50s 60s about the tripping weed bushy and odds are they will tell you just how good it was i still belive that was haze pure un dutchafide haze that would sell for say a small coin back full for what a oz bag of good seedless sat heads would sell for even in 79 and i have been able tyo track it back as far as 1973 so far from talking to old guys.
Any way take care hope you have a great season as i do to as i am going out doors this year to.
If i find out more from my mate i will pass the info on.
[Found an interesting conversation on CW in 2001 between Shantibaba and Mullum Madman that perhaps raises more questions when it comes to the heritage of La Nina.
I'm contenplating getting some of Lanina to accompany some CritHz outside that are healthy seedlings right now, would be a late Nov planting here outside of Brisvagas Qld. Would be totally worth it and why not? It's not far from here some of dem trees were grown - makes for interesting thinking !
the whole history of the strain and where Shanti got it from
by 20'Thai sent to Mark Surfs
Yeow Mark
You're about to grow an old sativa crossing that came to Ozz from Thailand in the form of stick(buddah) in the late 50's. She was passed onto me in the mid 70's by me departed Uncle, though I had seen him grow here many times since I was young. This a strain Mark that can yield massive outdoors, and is the most IndoorFriendly Sat I know. IT stretches stuff all. Indoors she can finish anywhere from 90-110 days and it produces some one of the most focussed stones around. Focussed yet strong and very soaring but not debilitating. Has NO ceiling.The more you smoke, the more stoned you get. If you gave the smoke to soemone who was a choofer in the 60'and 70's in the States, it'll vividly remind them of the old days mate. No one refuses this smoke, and everyone who tries it will tell you it is one of the finest smokes around. When grown out, it has an incredibly long shelf-life. A year later she smokes better than when she is fresh - like the Nam and many other near pure sativas.
The strain spread to every corner of ozz as in those days we only had sats and satDom. The sticks it came in at the time went everywhere also. You could by the for years in any part of Ozz. Sometimes Sins, sometimes seeded. When seeded only 1-5% of the seeds weren't crushed. We had hardly any indicas apart from a few IBLs, and they were as rare as hens teeth anyway. I have a mate who's known KOG since he was a boy and I had passed it onto him 2 decades ago. KOG loved her so much he devoted himself as keeper of the strain. So as long s KOG lives, she'll be around - and he doesn't look like he's about to leave us in a great hurry anyway - fit as a fiddle and living the clean life just outside of Nimbin in Kyogle.
The name Mullum, MullumbimbyMadness, OldMotherSativa is ALL the same strain under differing names. Bushman has nothing to do with here. It was developed by Henry in Bathurst NSW abotu 10years ago. It is a crossing of his rare SuperSkunk crossed with a dominant strong smoking GreekIndica of which a mate of mine brought back from Greece and passed kerns onto me of, and I passed soem onto Henry. He loved them and used them to cross with his killa SS that he hand picked from a crop of over 5,000 Sskunks. Just his SS alone is a killa Mark. The best SS I have ever come across. The Bushman tends a little towards the SOG side if unclipped. Clipped she'll branch more.
BTW mark, the stretch factor of the Mullums are no more than 3 to 1, and is often 2 to 1, especially the shorter pheno which is ideal for indoor SOG grows when left unclipped.
So the Mullum is NOT a strain that was developed here as many erronously thought till recent times. That is how she came directly from Thailand mate.
BTW - Mullums are much more potent than the DALAT. They'll equal or better Shanti's NevillesHaze in potency and in quality of stone. Shanti asked me to send him some 2 years before he was busted and was about to start them when he did. He knows the strain friom when he lived here way back in the 70's but couldn't get his hands on it by the time he left as he was from the state of WA where it was harder to find. He just told me that within the next year he'll do them to to produce seeds and then he'll do a much bigger grow of them if he's pleased with them initially to select an outstanding mum for crossing to make a new breed, or to include in an existing updated one - depending on how they pan out for him. But with these things Mark, one cannot be sure till they try them. In that I mean that he may give them a go and a half, and at the end he may not be happy with them for a range of reasons. REal breeders like him are festidious mate. But I feel he will find something thast he likes - I'd be suprised if he doesn't. When you grow them, you'll see why.
And BTW again. The Mullums lay so much **** on KaliMist2000 that it's not a joke anymore.lolol Simon ****ed up BIGtime IMO mark. He should NEVER had changed his pre2000 Kali - it was a bomb. This new one...well.
I am sure you'll hammer them real well Mark - worry not about your ability mate. I don't.
Take care matey.
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