Lady Spade
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Does anyone know whether Devil is a F1 hybrid or inbred line?
I still can't figure out how a 4th generation inbreed is an F1...anyone care to show me that definition?
isnt it an s1 now? stable hybrid?Devil is a stabilize hybrid it's called a F1 but it has been breed at least 4 generations to stabilize it. Shanti has explained the process in previous posts ive read it at Ic mag but they are still concidered F1 Hybrids. I hope this helps
isnt it an s1 now? stable hybrid?Devil is a stabilize hybrid it's called a F1 but it has been breed at least 4 generations to stabilize it. Shanti has explained the process in previous posts ive read it at Ic mag but they are still concidered F1 Hybrids. I hope this helps
isnt it an s1 now? stable hybrid?
S1 means Selfed which is a type of feminization Stableization is different it takes 4 different times of breeding the stain to sablize it. Once stable it's called a F1 hybrid
What he's getting at Betterhalf, is that an inbred line cannot by definition be an F1 hybrid. Once it is incrossed even once, it is no longer an F1 hybrid.
Hello wonkadonk,
I think the term F1 is loosely used, especially with cannabis. In fact F1 is defined many different ways if you look it up. You’ll see it’s defined as a cross between “unrelated parents” or “different cultivars” or “purebred parents” or “homozygous parents”, etc. And inbreeding is also mentioned, usually referring to the parent lines.
What would you call it if you made a cross of two different varieties, crossed the F1’s and then started working 2 separate lines from the F2’s to lock down different traits, say to F6. Hypothetically let’s say both lines are being selected for potency but one line is also being selected for flower structure and the other is selected for early flowering. You then cross a male and female of these lines back together. Would this be an F7? An inbred line? F1? The resulting hybrid would most likely only be able to be replicated by using the same 2 parents and if you crossed this new hybrid the progeny would most likely not breed true. I’m sure a lot of seed companies would call it an F1, even though it was inbred.
With cannabis F1 means two parents distinct from each other are crossed... plain and simple...
In order to make a "stablized F1" a breeder will typically start with a batch of F2 seeds and line breed multiple individual lines from it... Each line could have it's own name or the names could be related but each line is distinct in the characteristics it produces.
Take 1 line and cross it with another line and bam... "stabilized F1"
I believe this is actually how or very similar to what has happened in order to produce these so called stable F1s...
Black Widow is breed similarly if I remember correctly.
I wonder how many more of the MNS lineup is breed in this manner?