I know all about NL5/Hz. I'm wondering about the grow.
Ive grown the Swami NL5 x Hz, Sensi, and the Mr Nice
NL5 x Hz, and can tell you they differ a lot.....They may be related, but the plant stems, branch strength is totally different. The Terpene profiles are totally different, the Swami takes much longer on average to finish. Mr Nice tastes better, more refined, but is nowhere near as strong. Plant wise, or buzz wise.
The Swami stuff is so stiff that it cant be trained if you wait to long, and the Mr Nice NL5/Hz is easily trained, and bent, where the Swami will break/snap like a pencil. Blue Orca Haze is the same way. You have to get on it early, or forget it. I like to bend the crap out of my plants, and I veg with 1000w Horilux ( 62w Sq/ft ), 5 gallon containers and blast them. They are flowered in 15-20 gallon container per each plant, and Promix BX. So I get big, strong, fast growing plants. I also start seedlings under 1000w Hortilux, 24 inches, and 32oz cups.
Also not saying the MrN stuff isn't good, and Ive been running a SSH for 3 years. Its a pick of over 300 F2 females, so its pretty good stuff, and Ive been smoking/growing Nevils stuff since it was available in the 80s, and also SSSC.
My SSH mom, is the standard of which I judge all other plants, and seed banks, for production, fast growing, easy to clone, potent. For major seed production company, I think Nr Nice is among the best, but there are small growers in the Pacific NW that do have many of the old genes, in unadulterated form, and are starting to pop up.
The 1st stuff I got from Nevil, was Mazar and had a Santa Barbara post mark, so they didnt come from Holland. But Cali.
But me,, and my buddies have grown out 20 of the Swami NL5/Hz, and all of them are as late as can be. Have done 6 of the Blue Orca Haze, and started 40 more a month ago, to pheno hunt.
1 NL5/Hz, at 73 days still has totally clear trichs, thin sativa at 73 days. Its going 90-100 anyway. The least of 20 females was at least 80 days, though most were taken at 73, so he could reveg them, and hopefully not lkill them. Ive had plenty of the MR N NL5/Hz done at 65- 70. None of these are close to done in that time frame. Mr N NL5/Hz is more similar to Sensi NL5/Hz, but Mr N is better. Ive grown no less than 50 females of both Mr N NL5/Hz, and Sensi NL5/Hz. Sensi is also nothing like it used to be. Same for their NL, and its no longer called NL5 anymore, though they still bear the Cup on the add for NL.
I can tell you, they aren't the same plants. They are similar, and you can tell theyre related, some even look like my SSH, but the Swami NL5/Hz is still a much stiffer, stronger plant on average. The main stalk, and branches are very stout, and strong.
I also bought this 1988 LTD Release Nevils NL5/Hz in the 80s, and the feds got it, and the COOT genetics are the same as I remember them from 88. I bought 10 packs of them, and made crosses with Nevils Hashplant, And Sacred Seeds Sk1, and a RKS SSSC leaning Sk1.
I had it for 9 years and got ratted out by a partner. I did I had 1000 clones, and got 10-life, mandatory minimum.
I did 84 months locked up, and 5 years supervised release. 1 year I spent in Federal/County lockup, and slept on the ground in a 10 man cell with 33 people stuffed in it, and they all smoked cigs, but me.
But all I used from 88-97 were these genetics, and could have cared less about anything else, and this was the best stuff Id seen since 71-73.
But theres some heavy duty raw resin, that will burn your nose with this stuff, and IMHO needs to be crossed up with something with more flavor, lot of it is raw resin, is not flavorful, and many wont like it. Its guaranteed your going to cough every hit. And I don't mind to cough, and choke, and long as it tastes of the finest hash. But this stuff is raw, and is really strong, and is mostly not pleasurable. Theyre are good phenos of it, and tasty, but a lot are very raw, and hard hitting. Day wrecker.
As I said, some of it is so strong, all you have to do is get a little wife in your nose, and its instant burning, and eye watering, and it made me remember why I crossed it with the good tasting sk1, and Hashplant. But its the same as I remember it.
Also if 1 has the same genes as Nevils 88, whos to say I or anyone else cant find better specimens than what have already been found ??? They cant, because other good plants, as good, or potentially better, can be found.
Also there are many old clones still alive.
The One, Blue Orca, and another 1 or 2 that are sisters to The One, and BO from BOEL/COOT, are 34 years old, and still going strong. Since 84.
, 85 RKS, Skreddy Hashplant, NL5, Chemdawg91,Chemdawgs Sister, VA Afghani, and others are still alive, and doing well.