haze parent of la nina

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etzchaim

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If haze c is the only line that is alive, but you (shanti) claimed that la nina contains a haze that is neither A nor C, how is it that you continue to create la nina seeds?
 
La Nina is made using the Haze B plant which is a female. Pollinate it with a white widow male and you get La Nina.

La Nina = Haze B female x White Widow male
 
BH, Shanti and Nevil mentioned a few weeks ago that the Haze female (B) is no longer with us, so the formula would have had to change a bit...the current offering could be an f2 of the original formula, or a new one w/ a BW female and the Haze C male. I'm curious what the difference might be too, etzchaim.

ESS
 
Shanti says elsewhere in another post that haze c is the only MNS haze line that is still alive in its unhybridized form, thus haze B is no longer with us, so i come back to my original question, which haze is used to make the current batches of la nina? Is it that in current la nina batches the blck widow is the mom and it is crossed to the lone surviving haze c male? Would love if you could chime in here shanti and clear this one up for us.
 
didn't mean to be redundant you must have posted just as i was clicking submit, very true that it could be an f2, i hope shanti will clear things up for us.
 
I would really be bummed to find out that current la nina that i have are no longer the same plant that Leet and others turned me on to. I would hope though that if the genetics of a plant change, that the consumer/patient would be informed.
 
Hi all,
Scrog, there is no need to worry, La Nina has not changed in the form that you or l33t know it my friend. From what I understand, La Nina is hybridized with an unrelated haze to that of Haze C or A, both of whom were/are related. Though the only ones who would know for sure are the MNS team.
 
I wasn't aware the Haze B female was lost. I loved La Nina when I grew it about 6 years ago, I still have some seeds I made using my keeper La Nina female, I crossed it to my Colombian Gold male, have to pop em sometime.
 
JessE said:
From what I understand, La Nina is hybridized with an unrelated haze to that of Haze C or A, both of whom were/are related. Though the only ones who would know for sure are the MNS team.
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It seems likely it's at least related to Haze A, and or Haze C? Possibly Bx a number of times, or something??? To make a nearly pure Haze momma.

Otherwise, wouldn't this mystery Haze momma be prime material for Nevil's Grail Haze?
 
well the BW is the male in the cross so haze is on mother side of the cross...that eliminates the the male from Nev's Haze (HzC male), Shanti would probably have listed the Pedigree as A,B,C etc. if it was a plant ppl are famaliar with, maybe its a rare Haze momma Shanti smokes and uses in the LaNina cross...maybe its an "in house" secret tho thats pretty rare as both Shanti and Neville seem meticulous about providing the proper pedigrees for their strains
 
I've been thinking on this after a few puffs of a fine WW hybrid, good medicine!

Could La Nina' be something like (WW x HZa) x (WW x HZc) effectively re-introducing HZa and HZc by way of WW? They did say they've seen good things happen when these two come together.

/speculation
 
wonkadonk said:
It seems likely it's at least related to Haze A, and or Haze C? Possibly Bx a number of times, or something??? To make a nearly pure Haze momma.

Otherwise, wouldn't this mystery Haze momma be prime material for Nevil's Grail Haze?
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Haze B was a female, Nevil has posted that incrossing between the Haze males and females didn't produce what he wanted which is why he used a NL5Haze mother to make Nevil's Haze.
 
british_hempire said:
Haze B was a female, Nevil has posted that incrossing between the Haze males and females didn't produce what he wanted which is why he used a NL5Haze mother to make Nevil's Haze.
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By Bx I meant backcrossing. For instance taking The nicest NL5Hzc and restudding it with that same HZc daddy, find the nicest, Haziest lady, stud with HZc daddy again, and again. Effectively making a 94% (or more?) HZc momma with very little NL5 traits retained.

Or does this kind of route increase the catpiss?
 
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Can someone provide a link to this being official? I had no knowledge of the Haze B being lost and if so I will be in a scramble to get as many original packs of those as fucking possible.
 
Wonka - "Or does this kind of route increase the catpiss?"

Nevil said catpiss phenos appear the more you inbreed the Hazes. He also stated that the offspring of two Haze parents never was as good as crossing out with them.
 
Shanti clarified that b and a are no longer with us, c is still around and an all together variety not a b or c is and has been used for la nina.
Best,
Etzchaim
 
shantibaba said:
Hi HHHG

it is not on that chart.....it was a select female from a pure line of mullumbimby madness that has been going since the 70s...so it is not there.Let`s say it was the Ozzie version of Haze in my eyes.
all the best sb
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Well I guess that clears it up. I guess this aussie "Haze" momma must not pop with Nevil's HazeA, and or HazeC. Otherwise it seems a perfect candidate for Nevil's "Grail Haze"

Trademark that right now :)
 
wonkadonk said:
Well I guess that clears it up. I guess this aussie "Haze" momma must not pop with Nevil's HazeA, and or HazeC. Otherwise it seems a perfect candidate for Nevil's "Grail Haze"

Trademark that right now :)
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It must be a pretty special mom as I've heard nothing but great things about La Nina. I would have tried LN already but Shanti keeps coming out with new hybrids that I MUST have :)
 
Backcrossing the NL5xHzC to the Haze C was one of the first things I tried. It didn't work out.
Who is smoking La Nina? Tell me all about it. You would have thought that some of this would be grown outdoors in Spain.
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