Sour Diesal

[rhinoman]

Originally Posted by coop

and yet one of the original og's EdO.G., is from Boston.

the skywalker OG is some great bud, but it confuses the hell outta me as its a very sativa dominant plant.

I saw some nice looking SFV og the other day, has that more traditional indica/kush look and bag appeal at least.

Hey Coop, Do you think they used a blue dream instead of a skywalker? The two are similar but ones a sativa and one is a afghan.

[JetLife]

Originally Posted by badrabbit

I'm not tryin' to bust your balls Jetlife, but I just went and ran the term "OG Kush" through the search engines at and found at least a dozen different seed products using the name from an equal number of different breeders and seed companies ... are they all "91Chem s1 X (lemon thai x old world paki)"? Or is it only one true love OG Kush? Which one? (I'd like to order it I think! I just tried one from one company and it sucked.)

Really, I don't claim to know your definition is wrong, quite the opposite, but I just don't see how you really sort it out from everything else out there ....

To be fair, it's equally true that lots of other weed brand names can be broad and over-used .... skunk, N/L, 'critical mass" even .... but none of them have the spin and buzz (so to speak) that the 'og kush' name does.

Just sayin ...

okay. you bring up alot of good points man. tbere is no real way to really tell who has the real deal, as OG has become a monster all in itself, and there are alot of people out there claiming something is what it isnt.

i can confirm all of swerves gear to be 100% genuine as i have gotten clones from him back in the day when i lived in cali through a intermediary. its up to those seedbanks to confirm its genetics, and prove what they are. i know DNA's OG18 is quite the specimen, but im not sure if it comes from one of the original cuts. the original cuts from my understanding are the Tahoe, the SFV, the larry, lemon larry, and one more thats eluding me.

then you have the OG hybrids. i think thats what alot of people dont realize, except for us educated on the topic. OG is OG is OG to them. slap a funny name on it, they think its just to distinguish some vague difference. but not at all.

id be interested to see what these seedbanks and breeders have to say about their cuts.

but hey there are alot of cuts. you ever seen the Hells Angels OG? came from the same crew that brought the Larry into the med scene, and its absolutely an amazing specimen.

Originally Posted by rhinoman

Hey Coop, Do you think they used a blue dream instead of a skywalker? The two are similar but ones a sativa and one is a afghan.

I don't think so. The blue dream is a lot more solid of a bud then the skywalker.

[JetLife]

Originally Posted by coop

I don't think so. The blue dream is a lot more solid of a bud then the skywalker.

definitely agreeing on this. the BD has really tight solid nuggetry, as the skywalker is still decent sized buds, but not as dense as the bd. maybe this trait was not passed on if the bd was used, but when i had my dispensary, i literally sat down with three jars, skywalker, skywalker og, and sfv og. and in my personal opinion its all tied in together. nothing like stoner science! hahahaha.

[rhinoman]

Maybe i need to try it again and see. Some stoner logic for ya lol

[badrabbit]

Originally Posted by JetLife

okay. you bring up alot of good points man. tbere is no real way to really tell who has the real deal, as OG has become a monster all in itself, and there are alot of people out there claiming something is what it isnt.

i can confirm all of swerves gear to be 100% genuine as i have gotten clones from him back in the day when i lived in cali through a intermediary. its up to those seedbanks to confirm its genetics, and prove what they are. i know DNA's OG18 is quite the specimen, but im not sure if it comes from one of the original cuts. the original cuts from my understanding are the Tahoe, the SFV, the larry, lemon larry, and one more thats eluding me.

then you have the OG hybrids. i think thats what alot of people dont realize, except for us educated on the topic. OG is OG is OG to them. slap a funny name on it, they think its just to distinguish some vague difference. but not at all.

id be interested to see what these seedbanks and breeders have to say about their cuts.

but hey there are alot of cuts. you ever seen the Hells Angels OG? came from the same crew that brought the Larry into the med scene, and its absolutely an amazing specimen.

dude, word; I wish I had your direct experience with it ...I chatter about it only because I'd like to try what everybody's excited about.

best,
rabbit

[jack hairy]

What kind of OG crosses would you guys like to see?

I have an OG that came from bagseed.
I know it can be hard to obtain cuts, so seeds are the best way to spread the genetics.
This og i have is pretty good, i just dont know what to cross it to without completely changing its charachter.
All the males i have coming will be sativas, they might make nice crosses but how could i retain a more dominant og seedline?
Maybe ill get lucky and get a few bannanas.

A really cool questions Mister Hairy. Surely the go would be to use a male that is a non dominant type and who has some similar characteristics to OG . You American blokes would be the experts in that area Ive never even had the good fortune of trying any of the OG - Chem - Diesel lines myself. Maybe an Ortega - OG cross then backcross and select for OG dom traits ? Anything thats indy dom and preferably has no Skunk or Haze as they are very dom lines in any cross. Perhaps something like Sannies Herijuana or KO Kush x OG Kush . If you are trying other seed companies maybe something like the reserva privada Sour Kush. Ozzie member Southern Sun did a lovely grow of that one and it seems to yield more like a chem than the og . Cheers mate , hope all's well.

[jack hairy]

yeah, i wonder if og with some northern lights might make something similar to diesel?
I have some nl5 haze seedlings, the males will hit the og for sure.
maybe a Nl5 dominant male would be good, or a haze dominant male might make it easier to select an og leaning plant from the next generation.

[bfskinner]

Originally Posted by jack hairy

What kind of OG crosses would you guys like to see?

I have an OG that came from bagseed.
I know it can be hard to obtain cuts, so seeds are the best way to spread the genetics.
This og i have is pretty good, i just dont know what to cross it to without completely changing its charachter.
All the males i have coming will be sativas, they might make nice crosses but how could i retain a more dominant og seedline?
Maybe ill get lucky and get a few bannanas.

But what will the males be? Sat-dom OG crosses can be some bombbb dankness.

Just don't infect that tasty lemon pine hit with any lazy peanut butter sativa flavours and you'll be fine. Cross it to your piniest or most lemony male, regardless of strain origin. If you don't have any males that smell like lemon or pine to you I'd just go for the strongest smelling male.

So nobody trolls me about my "OG Knowledge" like when I mentioned smoking a local cut of Sour Deez that no doubt came from a pack of commercial seeds like almost all the "OG" out there - I have smoked probably 20+ different 'phenos' of OG.

Now, not having knowledge of the grow conditions or knowing the growers, I have no idea where the majority of these cuts come from. When I do find out though, familiar names start popping up.

DNA
Cali Connection
Subcool
Basically whatever the hell attitude and/or gypsy are selling named "OG something"

I have personally grown the OG18 fem beans. Amazing plants.

Best shit I've ever had though, the sources were always very far away from me. Totally unreachable in fact. I used to buy off a fella operating a very well stocked dispensary in his home and he usually had at least 3 "grades" of og, often more. The top grade stuff was always the same, always the best and always the same, and his relationship with the producers was nill. It was very expensive.