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Old 06-15-2010, 10:48 PM
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Yes this pic is much better and really helps

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This one should help.

As you can see the white pest is basically a Thrip (I think 1rst or 2nd Instar Larva) :





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Old 06-15-2010, 10:57 PM
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Now I m wondering whether the brown pest in the pic (again a better pic or at least more pics would help) is a mite or something else

What do you think guys?

I personally believe (considering the leaf damage I saw) its an adult spider mite but the pic is not as clear as I would like to draw final conclusions
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:02 PM
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i wondered about the big brown one too , figured maybe spalshed soil stuck to the leaf

i blew up the pic to 400X but by then its way too blurry
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:10 PM
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This one should help.
The white thing located next to the brown thing looks like a dead thrip larva
So that makes me wonder whether the brown thing could be a 'predator' mite eating that thrip

afterall the affected plant is not indoors and outdoors nature tries to keep a balance
so it could be a good predator mite

But like I said before the damage on the leaves looks to me more like mite damage and in the pic below with the multiple 'brown' things those look like the 'bad' spider mites to me I am unfortunately familiar with

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sorry photo did not post. Best picture that I could get. What are they ???

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Old 06-15-2010, 11:55 PM
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I dont think this is thrips as they are longer and slimmer like the shape of a lomg piece of rice. even blown up a thrip wouldnt be this . there very flat. you cant see there legs even move, there like a worm with tiny legs .
the problem is there is different stages and they all look different at each stage.. but mostly you will see them yellow... by the way where you using COCO at all?

do they move slow or fast?

are they flat and 4 times longer than there width?

do they hide in the vein ridges of the leaf?

when they move do they bend there bodies when they turn, like a worm sort of?

is there silvering on the leaves as well as yellow spots?

these are all thrip symtoms



I also have a method for soil I.D. as well.. if you do a flush of the pot you can see the larva float when the water is high after a flush, before it drains..



SPINOSAD can totaly be used for soil drench.. plus spinosad has NO ill effects on plants..

in fact I dunk clones in spinosad and sub,erge them 100% and it works great..

nematodes work to but not sure about on leaves, I know they work on fungas gnat larva when you do a soil drench with nematodes .


with neamtodes you need to know the specific strain of nematodes. if you have the right species then your good but what works for one might not for another since its biological....some neamtodes are so large they cant enter the bugs bodies....
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:19 AM
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Have not used cocoa and they don't move fast. Took me forever to take picture and that one didn't move at all.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:49 AM
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I dont think there thrips, I think there spidermites....I have had lots of experience with thrips and spidermites and its been good learning proccess, sad but good....I think there thrips..

there is lots of methods you will read about mites and I have tried almost all of them. My method is floramite or avid [the first I prefer] which is a bit controversial but it is very effective and doesn't harm the plants in any way at all...you can get it on ebay
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Have not used cocoa and they don't move fast. Took me forever to take picture and that one didn't move at all.
my thrips hardly move either , i even told the dude at the grow shop they are either stupid or brave , maybe both

count the legs grinkeeper , looks like thrips to me , and at one stage in thier life they to become more rounded insted of long and skinny

and yes as grinkeeper said , make sure to get the right nemitodes , the ones for your lawn/flower garden ect are not the ones you want

as for the leaves as grinkeeper was wondering about ,,, no nemitodes wont help there , they are microscopic worms living in and on the soil , not up on the plant , so some spray will be needed
, but the nemitodes will eat any newborn larva untill the cycle has ended and there is no more food (pests) for them to eat , then they die

im about to google spinosad to see if i can find somwhere to order some just incase i get re-infested ,,,, any links/help there grinkeeper ?

P.S. kevinn remember , if you get the right nemitodes for mites or for thips they are the same , they will do both
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Old 06-16-2010, 02:38 AM
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in my post it states the brands and where to get them, EBAY.....
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well that sucks , im anti-ebay ,,, ill google it and hope for the best


EDIT : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinosad <-- good read

seems it was discovered in the soil of a rum distilery not barrels

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