Growing in a ... wardrobe?

[Toskan]

Hey guys

I am a total indoor grow niubi.

Well I looked at these homebox things. I dunno, they don't really look cool and are probably pretty loud.
So I browsed for a tutorial on making a growbox
I found:
Grow Box Tutorial Page 8
keep in mind this is page 8 of 35 :-D
hehe
okay not the right thing for me.

So I thought about buying a cheap wardrobe and just stuffing all the vents and stuff inside. Actually what I have to do is 'just' put some foil inside and make sure no air gets inside (haha sounds easy)? Probably somehow install some hooks for the light and the air thingy

So I saw a cheap used wardrobe which is 185x58x100 cm
I saw there is people who measure things in feet (omg how long is a foot?)

so i googled it, it's
6ft x 1.9ft x 3.3ft

Just interrupt me if I'm completely off with my idea.


So I don't know what single items I need but I guess there are some guides out somewhere which help.

What - in my eyes - is a bit critical is the light. I am discussing it here sodium discharge lamp vs fluorescent tube

if you guys don't like the idea of a wardrobe... which homebox size would you suggest to me? I'm a beginner and I heard small boxes are harder to deal with.

[GMT]

you could buy 2 of those wardrobes. Take the back off one of them and open the doors on the second. Place the open backed one to the doors of the other one. You then have doors that open and close on the one with no back into a space of (using your measurements) 5ftx3.3 ft x 6ft high. You then grab a broom handle and run it over the top of both wardrobes and get a chain to hang the light from that into the gap in the ceiling created by the open doors (hope youre following this). A lot of the heat will rise through the open gap rather than getting trapped by the top of the grow box. If the heat gets too high, you can open one of the doors (on the wardrobe with no back) and aim a fan through the door. This wont be stealth by any means, but if thats not a problem its a really simple and effective method.

[Toskan]

well but I _must_ stealth, so I fear this is no option. :-S
but thanks for the idea

[tinleefloufa]

hello Toskan, hao are you? doing well i hope friend....and the design or construct of a wardrobe is come alone with success.

Originally Posted by Toskan

Hey guys

I am a total indoor grow niubi.

Well I looked at these homebox things. I dunno, they don't really look cool and are probably pretty loud.
So I browsed for a tutorial on making a growbox

great observation....those tents have uses however not all needs are the same. if stealth is a main priority, the tent does not help maintain sound insulation very well....compared to a wardrobe made of a higher density board or wood. common for seeing mdf board. even then if sound is problematic, the option to cleverly line the inside with adequate insulation then this start to compromise space requirements. in wardrobe all is give take, and very important to determine which requirements are more important for your individual needs....where and what you are willing to compromise with and so forth. then to work from that design.

Originally Posted by Toskan

I found:
Grow Box Tutorial Page 8
keep in mind this is page 8 of 35 :-D
hehe
okay not the right thing for me.

please forgive as i did not look over the link. are you prefer to purchase a prefab box that needs minimal modifications and already have a basic dimensions, or are you have the skill to utilize raw materials of the same sort and design to your unique preferences? when customizing a prefab wardrobe the skill level is nearly identical to utilizing and designing from raw materials/scratch, however utilizing raw materials at times can cause a logistics problems. ie. tools/space needed for larger cuts and the noise those cuts make. depend on your supplier of raw materials sometime the cuts can be made ahead of time specific to a design. just talking out loud as much or none of this may be applicable to you. all in all it come down to your preference.

Originally Posted by Toskan

So I thought about buying a cheap wardrobe and just stuffing all the vents and stuff inside. Actually what I have to do is 'just' put some foil inside and make sure no air gets inside (haha sounds easy)? Probably somehow install some hooks for the light and the air thingy

So I saw a cheap used wardrobe which is 185x58x100 cm
I saw there is people who measure things in feet (omg how long is a foot?)

so i googled it, it's
6ft x 1.9ft x 3.3ft

Just interrupt me if I'm completely off with my idea.

not interrupting as you are thinking well and thorough. just offering an alternate perspective friend. hope the comments are welcomed.

there are many way to block air from getting inside, but remember an intake is required for venting the heat buildup the lamp generates. there are many options in size of lamp, do you have a preference? also to take into thought is ambient temperatures of the intake you are able to provide. with wardrobe style it is common for intake of the space the wardrobe is sat. meaning no ducting needed for intake, and to help maintain stealth appearance.

what is need inside depend on the unique variables that only you can know, but for illustration it would be very stealthy for placing all components inside the wardrobe. meaning hang and design well for placing ballast, fan, and all gizmos needed inside the wardrobe itself. so to appear a normal wardrobe. for light leaks caulk all around except the door hinge/meet. in place of caulk the strips used for window and doors work well for the movable parts or access points of the wardrobe.

Originally Posted by Toskan

So I don't know what single items I need but I guess there are some guides out somewhere which help.

What - in my eyes - is a bit critical is the light. I am discussing it here sodium discharge lamp vs fluorescent tube

if you guys don't like the idea of a wardrobe... which homebox size would you suggest to me? I'm a beginner and I heard small boxes are harder to deal with.

for what item you need, it is important to determine what you wish to gain out of the wardrobe. the space you list above aprox. 185x58x100 cm is adequate for up to aprox. 400 watts, however that is dependent on your preferences. lower light intensity can also be had, so remember along with more light come more heat, but if manageable also come more yield. also remembering type of growing style you prefer, as a 400 watt is overkill for the footprint of a 3x2 in term of canopy coverage but will make up versus say a 250 in term of penetration into canopy. hope this make sense as my grammar could use help.

one critical factor is how you plan to deal with venting the lamp. the most sound will come from the sound of air that come out of the wardrobe, but this can be mask easily then again depending on specifics may be more difficult. it all very much variable, but am glad to help if you wish more to discuss.

yes smaller space is difficult to deal with....however when you realize the factors at play and look at the situation as a sage commander would look at the prospect of battle you will find it much of ease and clearly.

allow the forces of your nature direct your wardrobe, and it will come together as if it were meant to be. look for these variables of form, and variables of nature....how they must apply for you and build from there. as if building a ship, start with the keel.

also it can be notice that when one is capable of mastering smaller spaces to their maximum potential, then larger spaces become more easily worked. smaller space if so desired force one to maximize potential, then again what is small without a reference to large for scale? not trying to confuse

please continue the discussion as you would like, but if you feel comfortable sharing which preferences you have and in a general order of most importance to least....thing like yield, stealth, space, cost, skill level of assembly, style of grow.

also take into consideration these preferences with you specific variables only you know....can you vent anywhere, how much foot traffic will see the wardrobe, what is a loud sound/what is quiet enough....and such.

wardrobe are exciting. and with your excitement bring me excitement and joy.

[Beanz]

If you got the skills, here's a fridge grow.
DIY Grow Chamber - NO SHIT - CHEAP AWESOME AND SAFE, but you be the judge! - DAY 1

Here's an armoire grow. It's very stealth.
http://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/...w-cabinet.html

Hi Toscan. You need to consider quite a few very important factors first up.

For starters, what light are you going to use? Well that would be either a 400w or a 6oow but depends on what size box you can have because the diff between a 6oow & a 400w is quite a lot in terms of heat build up in an enclosed space, what sort of temps are you going to be growing in light on/off? Do you have to have the light on during the day for stealth reasons or will the midday temps be too hot to do so anyway? What sort of ventilation system you can have, are there windows or vents for intake/exhaust, how will the the box be constructed, and most importantly how many $$ do have to spend on the setup? If you can afford thermostatic controllers that makes a difference, will you be able to afford to add supplemental heating during light off, or will you be relying on the bulb to heat the grow to the req'd temp which means you have to run the light at night? Well that depends of the outside temp if the light is on at night? Is the box going to be in a hot place or a cool one? Will the box be in an air conditioned room or a sunroom? Lots more info on the conditions that the box will be subjected to please Toscan. You can tweak a box a little, but it has to be close to right or you will find that you should have got a 400 instead of a 600, or a bigger cupd. Just off the bat I'd say you are up for a 400w unless you are growing in a cold climate and then the 600 is a better option. Are you good at DIY & do you have the tools if you are?