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07-28-2012, 06:05 PM
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Is this forum pretty dead or what?
I've been trying to get some answers to any aero questions for like almost a month now. Tried to PM Hempy, hell, I've tried to PM most people, and get no replies back. If I should just go look someplace else for anwsers please some one let me know...I came here because I thought MNS would be the pinnacle of knowledge, and so far I can't even get simple answers on reservoirs.
Anyone out there know what they're doing and feel like answering some questions for a newbie please let me know, i'll check this thread out sometime later on, hopefully some one will offer to help me out. Anyone know anything about Aeroponics systems? That's what I need help with.
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07-28-2012, 06:16 PM
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Randy; it never has been the largest forum on the web and it's always been more focused on MNS genetics and growing experience than grow room tech.
Couple that with the fact that dirt/bucket growing has become so completely dominant out there that there's few people doing hydro, much less aero. IC Mag might be a more focused forum for that type of question. However, I'm one of the rare pure hyrdo growers and have been for over a decade. I do buy, build and use reservoirs, so I know a little about them ... I noticed you haven't actually asked a question; try us ...
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07-28-2012, 06:34 PM
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Aeroponics Questions ? What are they ?
Hello! RandyMarsh... Aeroponics is one of the most challenging ways of growing hydroponically compared to other hydro techniques. If this is your first time with hydroponics, you might want to consider a drip system, bubbler or a Hempy bucket and master that first. Aeroponics has to be set up properly to function properly and is expensive with initial start up. Please re- ask the questions for an answer from this forum and I am sure you will be helped promptly by someone who knows. There are many decisions you must make before growing anything the correct way hydroponically. Do not fly so high with your decisions, that you forget that a decision is but a beginning. Have a Great experience. peace, resinbud
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07-28-2012, 07:26 PM
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Are you high or what??
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Hey Randy... Love the name... I've used Randy as an alias for my grow rooms and "dealer"... Went and checked all of the posts you have made and didn't see any topics pertaining to questions about aero... Maybe I missed it in your intro or something... I do remember your super puking thread..... Ask away my friend... Were a small community but with great knowledge... No wading through a bunch of shit answers... Hmmm true aero... Anyone remember a guy named room2grow or podracer... That guy had some serious pom pom roots and was doing rediculous things long ago... I believe 100 psi at <50 micron sprayers... That shit was cool and a nice inspiration... Most "aero" is really nft... Hardly anyone has the correct pressure and micro sprayers to classify as true aero... I believe the biggest issue had something to do with lockout of p or k due to polarity shifts once the nutrients were being busted by the nozzles... Gonna have to go back and look into the archives... That dude put root porn on a whole different level and was quite an inspiration... One day.... Throw whatever you got at us Randy... Sorry for missing your qs.. Wherever they may be... Og
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07-28-2012, 07:44 PM
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Hi Randy
 I would not let an unanswered pm or two lead you to the idea the forum is dead, in the future I would recommend starting a public thread with your question and allowing the community to attempt to help. If you prefer not to start a thread, shoot me a pm and I will personally help you with any questions that you may have. As always if any member needs help feel free to pm me, my inbox is always open.
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07-29-2012, 02:27 AM
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Thanks for the quick responses. I was just getting a little bit frustrated because I had gotten half a dialogue with Hempy and he never got back to me. I didn't actually give it a real chance, just vented a little bit.
Anyway a little quick info: Running 6x, 8ft Aero tubes. Using 6in Sewer line PVC for the tube, and a 1/2in tube with emitters running inside of it. Currently each tube has it's own 5gal Rez. PPM's I've been going with are" Cloner: 300 Veg: 600 Flower: 900 PH: 5.9-6.5 I sorta inherited this from the guy and have been working on it. You guys are right. The shit is really difficult, requires a ton of attention, and can get super messed up, and put you far behind if you make any mistakes. The guy whose house i moved into had run into quite a bit of trouble before i got here with a lot of hydration interuption, and when i got here the strain was going to absolute shit. just growing 3's everywhere, and generally unhealthy. I've spent the last two months with what was left in Veg nursing them back to health, and now I have TWO out of like 15 or something that are actually worth a damn, although they're not to the point of spitting out regular 7's or better, they're still easily pumping out big green 5's Nursing weakened strains back to health pretty much sucks. So my PPM's have been getting a little messed up because when i started(2 months ago lol...im really new) out I didn't realize that topping off my rez with fresh water would dilute my solution the way it does. I had to answer my own question on that one, and just ended up making two Rez at a time so I could top off with the correct PPMs Is this something people actually do? I was also wondering how much I can trim down on the roots inside my tubes. I don't know anything about messing with the roots down there, but they're getting way out of hand on a couple of my mothers in the corner. I've had some of them just destroy my emitters, but I don't know how to tell if I can cut them off or not- Another example is the drainage hole that dumps into my Rez- I have roots growing down all into the actual Rez itself, the plants they belong to are some of my healthiest, so i haven't messed with them but it's kind of a pain in the ass. Anyway all this Aero trouble has prompted us to work on putting some mothers into soil. We started some from seed and they're about 6-8 inches tall now. Only thing is I have some weird curling of the leaves. Obviously i know there's a spot for soil questions, I just wanted to include all of my issues in one handy place. So let me ask you- what causes this curling:?  I would include more pictures of the whole setup but I'm just a little old fashioned I guess until I move. Love to hear some feedback, and thanks for all the replies everyone. Made my day! Now if ya'll can help me fix that curling on the leaves I was talking about, i'll be a happy panda! 
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07-29-2012, 03:15 AM
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Hey Randy,
I have found there are many solutions for various problems, and it seems like you used some common sense and ingenuity with the two reservoirs. There seems to be those who just change the reservoir out regularly, which could get expensive additive wise, while others who top with water and monitor ppm, ph adjusting accordingly. Sometimes half strength nutes are used, others just plain h20. Some reasons for leaf curl include (but not limited too) over fertilization and high temperatures. As far as whether you can trim roots back, if they're becoming a burden you can no longer ignore then do what you need to do. I would recommend some kind of mesh screen to help prevent them from getting in there in the future. In general I would not recommend cutting back roots on plants in flower, however it is done in veg routinely so its one of those on the scene calls where you have to be there to evaluate the situation first hand. If they become a problem which must be dealt with, cutting them back should not kill them and in fact is recommended with some plants and systems. My main concern would be stunted/shocked plants thus why I recommend caution.
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07-29-2012, 03:30 AM
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Hi Randy
Mmm nft diy fun fun....
First Randy I believe hempy not responding had to do with his retirement/departure from the site and had nothing to do with you personally... If hempy was still around I'm sure he would have helped... The biggest problem with nft is the size of the root mass ( including clogged lines, returns, nozzles, etc.), managing reservoir(s), and the overall overcompkication of the whole thing... One of those good in theory but not practical outside of set "perfect" parameters... Pruning roots is very possible especially when lines are clogging... This will of course have a slight negative affect on plant growth and health as this can be quite shocking... The plant will recover to normal however... Having roots into the res is def not something you want in veg( had a straggler or two try and get deep very late in flower) and should be highly avoided... I ran a couple fence posts to try them out and used a pice of screen and some scrap pieces to create a "barrier" of sorts to prevent the closest plant from exceeding it's boundaries... Generally when using nft the plants should be kept small enough to stay in their respective homes if you catch my drift... Not a lot of space in a 6 inch tube... Especially in a system supposed to promote explosive root growth... Note the catch 22... Nft in veg really only makes sense if your transferring to something bigger or planning to flower say a week or so after rooting a clone... Very easy to out grow the system... Are you running separate tubes with separate res in separate areas or are all of them side by side?? I large res with separate feed lines would be much more ideal... It's easy to make a manifold for feed lines... And then everything can return in say 1 inch PVC... This would vary depending on flow rates and pump size and angle at which tubes are draining... Essentially you could do the same thing without the sprayers... Flowing DO AND NUTRIENT rich water through the tubes either constantly or intermittently will be the same thing as spraying and a lot less complicated... An air pump or water fall return would supply plenty of oxygen to the root without the squirters... Onto plant health... What kind of nutrients are you using and are you using a .5 or .7 conversion to get ppm.... How old are the plants??? Are they from seed or clones??? Onto the soil plants... Again what kind of soil are they planted in... How big are the pots and how old are they... What kind of temps are you running in the room??? How many watts of light?? Did I miss that part... Scroll down... Nope no lights mentioned... Just tube numbers... Can we get some general info... Room size... Lights... Fans... Veg room and flower please... The curling looking like heat stress to me... Same time could be the soil and something inside of the soil... Perhaps too hot or maybe ph is wacked... Looks like heat... How close are the bulbs and what are they?? Maybe a little burn and heat combined... Well get you sorted in no time... Simplifying your life and your room... Such as why have 8 different res... That's overworking you big time... Same with nutes... Personally I would recommend the Lucas formula for your first time hydro growing... It's stupid easy and you can atleast get that checked off your list.... I'm gonna have to link the cannastats webpage again aren't I... Time to make a signature... Check this out Randy... CannaStats Home Page Especially the part about res maintenance and topping off... We need to simplify everything here... Youre over your head here... Shit man I'd be ripping my hair out with that setup... We def want to Covina your res and get you into a simpler system... Just wait till rabbit comes in with some ebb and flow talk... You could easily turn those tubes into something very productive and much simpler... Keep the faith and stay positive through the hard times and inthe end you will come out much more experienced and weathered... Best of luck and we shall get you up and running in no time... Looking forward to hearing from you again... Have a good one Og
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07-29-2012, 04:03 AM
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Hi RM, I usually try a forum search b4 I ask questions since most topics have been covered at 1 time or another - http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/search.php?searchid=734240 http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/search.php?searchid=734235
Hope that helps Be Well, P77
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07-29-2012, 05:30 AM
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I have lurked the forums for a while, and searched most topics. It's a pity I'm in a sort of unique position. People don't write faqs for Aeroponics it seems like everyone is working soil or hydro systems, which is great, but it wasn't what I need. The whole reason for this thread was because I tried doing it just using forum search and PMing people because I didn't want to be a bother or spam HALP ME NAO PLZ threads. Also being unfamiliar with this forum in general I had trouble finding anything I found relevant to my current questions and situations, on top of that I honestly thought it might be dead and I would have to figure it out on my own like I did when I had a that double reze question before- I was in a dialogue with Hempy and then he just vanished. It was all very disheartening... I appreciate your concern again, and I assure you I won't spam a bunch of irrelevant repeat threads or generally be an ass in any other easily avoidable ways
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